I just can't see Curlin as having 'it' yet... 3 starts doesn't equal 'it' for me... sorry.

I think Steve has mentioned on DT Live that Scat Daddy is actually the "bell of Pletcher's barn" and that he loves him.

Maybe talent-wise he's a third stringer, but seems like TP is a fan.

Nick Zito said the same thing about Sun King before the Derby.. Didn't make him any more of a winner.

Sun King was horribly off form going into that Derby, he ended up going off at almost 30-1 (and he ran like it...) At least in the case of Scat Daddy he's coming in off close to a career best effort.

I think High Fly is an excellent comparison. A very good, gritty colt who found ways to win with less than spectacular speed figures who didn't figure to move up at 10F. That year he was the one I had the most difficulty determining whether to toss him (eventually I came to the conclusion he may end up too close to the pace and fried- at the top of the stretch he was actually the leader) and I feel the same way about Scat Daddy this year. I will probably make some protection bets with him but that's about it.

Tiago? puhllezz he could not hold Scat Dady's jock. Your cash 5/5 is greatly appreciated.

Java OUT

Scat Daddy is a good horse, but there have been distance questions on him for a long time, and the conventional wisdom is that he will not get faster at longer distances. Add to that the fact that he hasn't run a triple digit Beyer, and you don't have a good profile for the Derby.

That said, I think he is as professional and consistent as anyone in here. Put him in the hands of Pletcher and nothing would surprise me. I think he has a good shot at a top 5, but not the win. I'd compare him to More Than Ready.

The real question is who's jock are you currently holding?

Oh wow... LOL

Aren't you the guy who is real high on Cobalt Blue?

You mean this post....under the heading " No need to name 5 "

He has already defeated Level Red AND Air Commander in the same race. :eek:
Clearly he is the class of the crop.

yeah, that's what I thought.

I keep seeing Mr Gold talking about taking peoples money, and offering to be the ticket window for others, however with his money on Cobalt Blue I'm fairly sure that he will be donating money, and not receiving any on derby day.

Aside from of course misconstruing my comments concerning Tiago, probably because of substandard reading skills, he is also looking forward to booking DrugS's action.

Come to think of it, it makes a LOT of sense that he likes Cobalt Blue.

well that clears it up then.

Maybe he saw that he defeated Street Lights, and got it confused with Street Sense.

Seacrest OUT!

Sure thing jimmyboy.... played a few future wagers. Means nothing when it come down to betting 5/5. Be sure to post your selections her prior to the derby as I will for braggin rights... oh yeh your sidekick can as well..

Java OUT

Hey Tony Clifton, you don't mind if I call you by the name you originally used to slander people here, where exactly did I say I liked Tiago?

You know....sort of like where you said you liked Cobalt Blue.

Scat Daddy has one thing that makes me wonder about him. The RAN curse.
Who is going to get faster the farter they go? and if everyone tries to rate who will try and steal it? I mean what if we get a War Emblem track. Anyone that breaks worst than 4th doesn't hit the board.

btw Sam P has never delivered the goods.

it's to bad Hard Spun has been mismanaged.

I'm still looking for a long shot to key I have one in mind but won't committ until after the draw.

Don't worry yourself, I am not one to shy away from posting picks.

Oh I eagerly await the details of your 5/5 wagering.

Nice of you to step up on the comic relief side of things, seeing that PG man has departed the scene.
thanks,

Believe me I'm not singing Sam P's praises. I just feel like he may be one of the better longshots in the race. He's really the only horse coming into this race with reasonable darkened form. To me he was the best horse in the SA Derby and had he won that race his odds would have been a half or even a third of what they are going to be.

On the other hand a stronger argument could probably be made that the SA Derby was a lousy race.