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The Bid 04-02-2007 08:20 PM

I didnt say Oneill used Milkshakes on him, I said its amazing how fast a hrose can back up when they arent Milkshaked. You can apply that to any horse you want.

If you think Lava Man runs on hay and oats you are out of your mind.

In california hes unbeatable, outside California he cant hit the board. I guess hes just a bad shipper

pointman 04-03-2007 08:31 AM

Whatever the reason, as long as they continue to ship him and people make him the favorite, he is the best throwout there is, just like on Saturday.

pgardn 04-03-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
I didnt say Oneill used Milkshakes on him, I said its amazing how fast a hrose can back up when they arent Milkshaked. You can apply that to any horse you want.

If you think Lava Man runs on hay and oats you are out of your mind.

In california hes unbeatable, outside California he cant hit the board. I guess hes just a bad shipper

Milkshakes are not medication. And they were used in posts concerning Lava Man. Why even mention milkshakes?

So what does Lava Man run on that others dont?

ceejay 04-03-2007 06:25 PM

At least Lava Man runs. Against full (sometimes) competitive fields. Unlike some horses whose connections pick their spot to decide which 5-, 6-, or maybe 7-horse field to grace with their presence.

Left Bank 04-03-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ceejay
At least Lava Man runs. Against full (sometimes) competitive fields. Unlike some horses whose connections pick their spot to decide which 5-, 6-, or maybe 7-horse field to grace with their presence.

This has got to be the funniest statement I have heard all week.

miraja2 04-03-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ceejay
At least Lava Man runs. Against full (sometimes) competitive fields. Unlike some horses whose connections pick their spot to decide which 5-, 6-, or maybe 7-horse field to grace with their presence.

Well I guess you are right about that.
Nobody could accuse his connections of picking good spots for him.
It seems a bit strange, however, to compliment them for that.

ELA 04-03-2007 07:56 PM

I've asked before and never really got an answer, but, could this be a bute issue? I don't know. I am not a vet and not anywhere near qualified to say, and I don't know anything about the horse except having watched him race a lot. CA is a race day bute jurisdiction. I don't know the amount however. What about KY? NY is not. Perhaps it's a bute and being away from home/shipping issue.

Eric

ELA 04-03-2007 08:00 PM

BTW, I don't fault the connections for taking the shot. They are not trying to strengthen a resume for a stallion, they've made plenty of money and did everything there is to do in CA. Maybe it's the "sportsmen" approach, maybe they wanted to go to Dubai, who knows. It's their horse and they can call whatever shot they want.

Be that as it may, the today's day and age where people talk about horses not racing, being babied, ducking competition, etc. (yes, it's not the same with geldings), I would think people would like to see this kind of horse, management, etc.

Eric

miraja2 04-03-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA
BTW, I don't fault the connections for taking the shot. They are not trying to strengthen a resume for a stallion, they've made plenty of money and did everything there is to do in CA. Maybe it's the "sportsmen" approach, maybe they wanted to go to Dubai, who knows. It's their horse and they can call whatever shot they want.

Be that as it may, the today's day and age where people talk about horses not racing, being babied, ducking competition, etc. (yes, it's not the same with geldings), I would think people would like to see this kind of horse, management, etc.

Eric

In general I would agree with this, but this particular horse has proven repeatedly that - for whatever reason - he can't ship and run well. I don't view sending him to this race as "taking a shot." To me it is just stupid.
Anybody that had followed this horse's career knew that this was an absurd decision. They can certainly do whatever they want with their horse, but I just hate to see a nice horse that could be put in races he would win, put in races where he has no chance.


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