forfathers is a very talented sprinter if zito dosent cut him back he will ruin the horse, i dont think he'd be up the track, i think he's be competitive and possibly win, this field is almost horrible in my opinion.

He is being pointed for the King's Bishop.

I guess his last race was so good I dont know how Nick could have missed this spot

well thats why i said sprinting, and if you go back to his last sprint race it was a huge race, and yes his last race was horrible thats why i also said if they dont cut him back in distance he will be ruined, and since then i was informed that hes being pointed to the kings bishop which i think is a great move

do you consider the hutcheson a route race?

if not, his last sprint race was "huge" for sure. Hugely bad.

Anything Weichong Marwing rides in Dubai is live. He's usually on de Kock horses.

i consider the hutch a long sprint so yea i guess your right, but i also guess i need to watch everything i say because we both know you know what i met, i met the race vs adore the gold, the swale i think

Ohh. Ok I misundastewed what u met

How do you meet a race? That sounds pretty cool. I've seen a lot of races.....but I don't remember ever meeting one.

Sorry, I thought you meant his last sprint race because you said "his last sprint race," I guess I might be arguing semantics.

Zito will be well served to point him to the Breeders' Cup Long Sprint.

EDIT: If you're not aware, I did get a degree in English, so I guess it's my own personal problem to see words for what they mean -- to a fault.

I spoke to him earlier and he was lamenting not running in the Golden Shaheen instead of last weekend. I think his exact words were " how could I have missed this race! "

I just had to chime in here because this thread is funny. Lets see here Forefathers is a very talented sprinter because he ran a huge race in the swale against straight 3 year olds. And he could be competitive and Possibly win in this horrible field.

To be honest I can hardly type because I am laughing so hard. 3 year olds against the best 3 older sprinters in last years BC in March by the way it does not matter what form they are in. he would not finish with in 20 lengths of the winner.

Its simple, Nick is losing it. Why he didn't point Forefathers to the $2,000,000 Golden Shaheen is beyond me.

you know what you guys are 100% correct on this one.... forfathers is a bad horse, and this Golden Shaheen is a super super race, i totally agree with you on this one, i was so so so wrong. The big 3 in this race are the top 3 from the breeders cup sprint, well that was another amazing race where did the top 3 betting choices run in that race ? where did henny hughes run ? too much bling ? did henny hughes even show up that day ? im am wrong though this is a powerful group, especially the americans, if im not mistaken all of them except for friendly island are coming off pretty bad performances, and in my opinion friendly island is the winnner in here, and what is that really saying he's a ny bred, who beat a 3 or 4 horses field in cali in his prep, hes a grinder type close all the time, very good horse but, is he the type who should be the headliner in a $2,000,000 race ?

Good first step, accepting the unpleasant truth.

btw, didn't you say you were going to bed like two hours ago?

yea i did i took a horrible beat in a poker tourny tonight, i cant sleep , would you like to discuss anything ? why dont you look over my picks tommorw, not worry about the bets or the amounts i put and tell me what you think of them..... i just posted them

I'm always one to try and find value... sometimes in the form of bombs. So with that in mind, I'm goin with the #11 Bounty Quest.

He's a steady knocker at this distance with a load of experience of the track.

I thought Harvard Avenue was a little interesting. He has been the victim of two straight paceless races where nobody closed an inch. His second to Friendly Island was much better than it looks.

The race is nothing if not a crapshoot.

i liked him a little.... i looked at him for a while