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randallscott35 03-20-2007 10:06 AM

Let's give Wilko a race? The One Hit Wonder race. A Grade 4.

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I did. He moved so pretty with such fluidity to his stride. :rolleyes: LMAO


I'll have to defer to other board experts on that topic.

randallscott35 03-20-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'll have to defer to other board experts on that topic.

Kentuckroses will be on shortly to give her analysis.

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I think the Cigar Mile is a great name for the race. I also don't mind that there's a Shecky Greene Stakes run for like $40k each year even though most of today's racing fans have any idea who Shecky Greene is or was, at least the horse that is.

What am I saying? If some HBPA or track or Jockey Club wants to name a stakes race after a horse, then so be it. It's their prerogative.


The Cigar Mile was fine, as it was previously the NYRA Mile, and changing it only added to history for a relatively new race.

Coach Pants 03-20-2007 10:08 AM

Awww they should've named it the Scott Lake Handicap

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Kentuckroses will be on shortly to give her analysis.


One can only hope.

randallscott35 03-20-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Awww they should've named it the Scott Lake Handicap

ThE Shuman 3 Legged Derby

Thoroughbred Fan 03-20-2007 10:11 AM

I think all Thoroughbred tracks would be a better place if each had a small museum in them of the great moments in that tracks history. Racing really needs to remember when it was great and to give something good and historic for parents to show children that come to the track.

I guess for now, a lesson in how to operate the ingenious "Horse Wizard" machines will have to do.

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:14 AM

When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.

randallscott35 03-20-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.

Now we have Nader doing bits. Although I like them.

Cajungator26 03-20-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.

I agree. It would definitely help to educate newer fans on the history of whatever track they may be at.

slotdirt 03-20-2007 10:18 AM

Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?

Coach Pants 03-20-2007 10:20 AM

I'm going to look for the Ellis Park Country Music Theme Song/Video to sway opinions to "HELL NO!"

Cajungator26 03-20-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?

LOL

"Shoot, if you must, this old gray head,
But spare your country's flag," she said.
A shade of sadness, a blush of shame,
Over the face of the leader came;
The nobler nature within him stirred
To life at that woman's deed and word;
"Who touches a hair of yon gray head
Dies like a dog! March on!" he said.

slotdirt 03-20-2007 10:25 AM

I mean, we have a freaking stakes named after a yellow ribbon! Smarty Jones definitely deserved a stakes race.

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?


You're not serious? You don't know who Laz Barrerra was?

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I mean, we have a freaking stakes named after a yellow ribbon! Smarty Jones definitely deserved a stakes race.


Smarty Jones deserves NOTHING. He raced, he won, he raced, he lost, he got a mild injury and his owners took the money and ran....and then blamed others.

He is the most glaring recent example of people's lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-20-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Smarty Jones deserves NOTHING. He raced, he won, he raced, he lost, he got a mild injury and his owners took the money and ran....and then blamed others.

He is the most glaring recent example of people's lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Amen!

slotdirt 03-20-2007 10:49 AM

I don't know, the 120,000 or whatever it was on Belmont Day in 2004 would tell me Smarty Jones meant something to somebody in the greater NYC region.

blackthroatedwind 03-20-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I don't know, the 120,000 or whatever it was on Belmont Day in 2004 would tell me Smarty Jones meant something to somebody in the greater NYC region.


Not to be overly critical, but if you don't know who Laz Barrerra was, I find it hard to even have a discussion that in any way involves the history of the game. You simply have a myopic view of the game that centers around one OK horse while ignoring the plentitude of players in this game that deserve at least as much attention....and in many cases more.

By the way, that attendance, while substantial, was phony.


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