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POINTGIVEN1985 03-13-2007 09:18 AM

whats the breeding on this filly, i missed the race but everyone seems to be excited, tell me a little about her.

miraja2 03-13-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
whats the breeding on this filly, i missed the race but everyone seems to be excited, tell me a little about her.

By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.

paisjpq 03-13-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.

UMMM her dam-sire is fappiano who is by Mr. Prospector

robfla 03-13-2007 09:43 AM

isnt fappiano from mr. p?

saucon17 03-13-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
whats the breeding on this filly, i missed the race but everyone seems to be excited, tell me a little about her.

She was $120k Keeneland Sept. yearling purchase bought by his
owner/trainer.

The mare has has not produced a black type runner yet, but
has produced many winners. She has a 4yo Dynaformer colt
named Mr. Big in training at Hollywood Park.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-13-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.

thank you

POINTGIVEN1985 03-13-2007 10:04 AM

she has a very nice pedigree, i wish i could see the race

saucon17 03-13-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
she has a very nice pedigree, i wish i could see the race

PG1985

Try the race replays at calracing.com they should have it

paisjpq 03-13-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by saucon17
PG1985

Try the race replays at calracing.com they should have it

they do...I actually just watched it again...damn she looked good.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-13-2007 10:34 AM

Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.

SniperSB23 03-13-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.

I thought it was impressive that Chocolate Lava held on for second through the fast early pace.

Estimated fractions for Magnificience:
23.27
22.16
23.73
6.46

Falling behind early may have been the best thing to happen to her and the race may be getting slightly overrated cause it was so visually appealing. To run the 3rd and 4th furlongs in 22.16 and comeback in sub-24 is pretty impressive though.

Antitrust32 03-13-2007 10:46 AM

Holy Cow! what a filly! Santa anita has the goods right now!

ArlJim78 03-13-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.

This is a good point. Chocolate Lava on a normal day would have one of the most obvious short priced maiden winners that you can find. She has as you pointed out ran into some really unfortunate circumstances but in her own right has looked really nice.

ArlJim78 03-13-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I thought it was impressive that Chocolate Lava held on for second through the fast early pace.

Estimated fractions for Magnificience:
23.27
22.16
23.73
6.46

Falling behind early may have been the best thing to happen to her and the race may be getting slightly overrated cause it was so visually appealing. To run the 3rd and 4th furlongs in 22.16 and comeback in sub-24 is pretty impressive though.

Its entirely possible that getting left helped and that it was slightly overrated. But you cannot deny that the way she was striding out so powerfully in the stretch with her head up and ears back was simply awesome. Also that middle quarter is worth noting!!

SniperSB23 03-13-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Its entirely possible that getting left helped and that it was slightly overrated. But you cannot deny that the way she was striding out so powerfully in the stretch with her head up and ears back was simply awesome. Also that middle quarter is worth noting!!

It was definitely very impressive. I'll be interested in seeing her next race out and seeing if she stretches out or is going to be a deep closing sprinter.

ArlJim78 03-13-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
It was definitely very impressive. I'll be interested in seeing her next race out and seeing if she stretches out or is going to be a deep closing sprinter.

Yes the trick will be to see if she can just cruise/rate, and save that kick for when she needs it. The sky's the limit for this one.

miraja2 03-13-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
UMMM her dam-sire is fappiano who is by Mr. Prospector

Oh yeah, I missed that one.
I see that my lack of pedigree knowledge is matched by inability to read.
It was pretty foolish of me to even THINK that a horse in this country today would not have Mr. P in their pedigree.

paisjpq 03-13-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh yeah, I missed that one.
I see that my lack of pedigree knowledge is matched by inability to read.
It was pretty foolish of me to even THINK that a horse in this country today would not have Mr. P in their pedigree.

at this point it's almost impossible:rolleyes:

at least you seem to be able to read pp's....more useful than general reading;)

rontheman1964 03-13-2007 06:13 PM

Kasept, what show are you talking about where O'Neill commented on this? Is it on the web? Always interested in finding out more about horse racing shows, especially California racing. Thanks, Ron


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