I agree, it leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

I just don't think its good for racing either to have this huge super trainer winning, whatever it is 50 - 80 million dollars per year.

His mentor Lukas use to do it...well maybe 25 - 40 million back then

Chalk trainers like this will be stuffing chalk down your throat until they die,or you die(or until you stop following racing.)Your eyes aren't deceiving you(their horses often don't feel fatigue.)

You know I never thought about it until you said that, but yes it does.
We already have one mini-super trainer over here, Catalano, but he mainly deals in the claimers. Its not like he is sweeping all the stakes races.

And when Pletcher horses ship here they get grossly overbet, he hasn't won too many here actually...I am not even going to go on my English Channel tirade

AND he's beatable in some of those claiming races. If you pick your spots right, there is a ton of money to be made betting against the Calabrese/Catalano horse in Arlington sellers.

Oh hell yes. I spend the whole meet playing against low priced Calabrese/Catalano runners.

lol, not me, I love pain

you secretly unload on Laviolette several times a week, thats where you find your pain.:D

He doesn't exactly fit the mold of a super trainer, like a Pletcher. he is just a local high percentage guy. They do a lot of claiming and then they drop the horse in class and try to win several races before they are claimed away.

The success rate of horses that are claimed off of him is not good. In fact, they almost never win back.

Yes he does train Dreaming of Anna.

LOL, hilarious....I am real pissed at myself for not even mentioning that ridiculous guy on DT Live today. Byk needs to start having the Laviolette Allowance O-Meter at ATRAB studios. I am guessing he is 1-76 in allowance races this meet at Arlington. maybe 2-76 because of Polytrack.

I will admit that I did use him last meet, I am actually discipline enough not to put win money on him, but when he does win, it ruins alot of things going on, and multiple f'bombs get dropped and the ever so fun buying a new program becuase of the wrath and force it gets chucked into cement.

I do think that they spot their horses really really well. And you need to keep some of these angles HUSH...the Catalano off angle has been solid for a couple years now, it is almost as solid as Laviolette off is at Arlington

Heck, shouldn't we be giving Pletcher's assistant trainers all the credit here? After all, Pletcher hasn't even been around until the last couple of weeks, due to the suspension, right? I just wish he were a bit more colorful/charismatic. Leno should put Pletcher on and try to get the guy to be a bit more humorous. I still think that trainers like Baffert (Mr. Colorful, and that hair!), Frankel (Brooklyn Jerk), Servis (Mr. Everyman), Tagg (Pessimism Incarnate), or Ritchey (with his hearty 2 mile gallops) are all better for the sport than Pletcher with his 34 colts at 12 gazillion tracks: "Huh? which one is that bay out there Anthony/Seth/Michelle/Tristan?" OK, that's not fair, I bet he recognizes the colts and their corresponding deposits on his bank statements, but still...200 horses? 5 assistant trainers? I'm undoubtedly jealous, guy's still under 40, right? I'm just saying that the guys is an excellent MANAGER at this point (of owners and his assistants), more than an amazing trainer; I really doubt that he sees much of the horses. Aaaaaah, sweet success...

A.P. Arrow was as washed as I've ever seen on a horse... colt was beyond "worked up."

Big Trainers Big Percentages
 

Gets back to the question i have been struggling for these past few years. Are these high percentage trainers (Pletcher, Frankel, Dutrows, etc.) high percentage trainers because: a) they simply get the best horses b) are doing something more than their lower trainer percentage counterparts - extra vitamins, better water, or whatever else that they can afford from their higher day rates or, c) they are not playing on a level playing field (CHEATING!)

or is it a combination of all three depending on who we are talking about....

How does a mid-teen percentage trainer like Contessa all of the sudden turn into a higher percentage trainer? Is it simply the winter track at Aqueduct and a good part of his competition is gone?

How does a high percentage trainer like Pletcher all of the sudden go cold like he did at Saratoga in 2005 after the first few days? There was a rumor that Mrs. Whitney had a security guard placed at his barn... Can not believe that one....

Just makes one wonder...

PSH

And he still would've won with ease without that ride.