jimbo listen i guess i see what your saying but i also never said he was good, so it can go both ways all im saying is i saw his maiden race live he dident beat much and then i saw the nasua and i feel he did not beat much there... unless you count adore the gold, which in my opinion is another horses that is overated.

But he's part of the same generation. But since Eu Tambem, the Brazilian winner of the Argentine Derby, was pretty impressive winning the G2 feature later on the card against older horses, it may be the current Argie 3yos are a decent bunch after all.

spot on he was..