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Alabama Stakes 05-06-2022 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164178)
Good call.

Anything else I can confidently throw out tomorrow?

Tough to know when Jose Ortiz will ride with his head up his ass or ride well. She was loaded until Jose found the trouble, losing all chance.

Mo rolls tomorrow

RolloTomasi 05-06-2022 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1164145)
Good race by the 1 horse.

Better?

The "outside the box" thinking that you like to champion actually worked to great effect for the people that bet on Secret Oath today. Running (and failing) in the Arkansas Derby rather than recording a facile win in the Fantasy is probably the main factor that kept her from being the favorite today (unless I'm way off on the relative speed figures). Would have been a huge gift if she got off at the 6-1 ML.

It will be interesting to see what they do with her from here. Lukas is at the tail end, so perhaps we will get some more radical campaigning. If so, I hope its the Preakness and not the Belmont (unless it ends up being both). Barring setbacks, the Travers would be the ideal race to tackle colts again as she probably ought to assert her dominance over the 3yo filly division in a couple of more races.

If he really wanted to go old school he could try the Alabama-Travers double off a week's rest ala Davona Dale.

RolloTomasi 05-06-2022 11:35 PM

Now is the time for NYRA's stakes coordinator to trot out the whole mystical "stallion making" capabilities of the Met Mile to persuade Bill Mott to run Olympiad in that race.

Broke on top, settled under restraint off a slow pace, and re-rallied after being collared at the top of the stretch (albeit by a likely short horse).

Toss in the pedigree and he seems tailored made for a one-turn mile...

King Glorious 05-06-2022 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164185)
The "outside the box" thinking that you like to champion actually worked to great effect for the people that bet on Secret Oath today. Running (and failing) in the Arkansas Derby rather than recording a facile win in the Fantasy is probably the main factor that kept her from being the favorite today (unless I'm way off on the relative speed figures). Would have been a huge gift if she got off at the 6-1 ML.

It will be interesting to see what they do with her from here. Lukas is at the tail end, so perhaps we will get some more radical campaigning. If so, I hope its the Preakness and not the Belmont (unless it ends up being both). Barring setbacks, the Travers would be the ideal race to tackle colts again as she probably ought to assert her dominance over the 3yo filly division in a couple of more races.

If he really wanted to go old school he could try the Alabama-Travers double off a week's rest ala Davona Dale.

Ok

RolloTomasi 05-06-2022 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1164188)
Ok

Baffert is suspended for multiple medication violations, not for being "hard on his stock".

Better?

King Glorious 05-06-2022 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164189)
Baffert is suspended for multiple medication violations, not for being "hard on his stock".

Better?

Ok.

RolloTomasi 05-07-2022 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164146)
Someone is starving for attention...

I'm sorry I doubted you...

blackthroatedwind 05-07-2022 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164187)
Now is the time for NYRA's stakes coordinator to trot out the whole mystical "stallion making" capabilities of the Met Mile to persuade Bill Mott to run Olympiad in that race.

Broke on top, settled under restraint off a slow pace, and re-rallied after being collared at the top of the stretch (albeit by a likely short horse).

Toss in the pedigree and he seems tailored made for a one-turn mile...

Mott trains Speaker's Corner.....but I agree he should run both.

freddymo 05-07-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164187)
Now is the time for NYRA's stakes coordinator to trot out the whole mystical "stallion making" capabilities of the Met Mile to persuade Bill Mott to run Olympiad in that race.

Broke on top, settled under restraint off a slow pace, and re-rallied after being collared at the top of the stretch (albeit by a likely short horse).

Toss in the pedigree and he seems tailored made for a one-turn mile...

Not to mention he had to tote around clueless Junior. Is Flight Risk still in training or has he done enough?

RolloTomasi 05-07-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1164208)
Not to mention he had to tote around clueless Junior. Is Flight Risk still in training or has he done enough?

He worked a slow 5 furlongs last weekend, which is probably a smart move (going slow rather than bullet working) as he can have no further slip ups to make the race.

I presume he will work again tomorrow.

freddymo 05-07-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164223)
He worked a slow 5 furlongs last weekend, which is probably a smart move (going slow rather than bullet working) as he can have no further slip ups to make the race.

I presume he will work again tomorrow.

He is like your cousin's hot girlfriend that may or may not come for thanksgiving. You want to see the short shirt and heels but if dumps her you know it's for the best.

King Glorious 05-10-2022 08:19 AM

I see that they are going to focus on sprints with Echo Zulu, feeling that 2-turn races are a bit beyond her scope. I kinda felt like she ran the second best race here.

blackthroatedwind 05-10-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1164533)
I see that they are going to focus on sprints with Echo Zulu, feeling that 2-turn races are a bit beyond her scope. I kinda felt like she ran the second best race here.

Once again, connections doing the right thing by their horse disagrees with your assessment.

Then again, Taiba's connections agreed with you. I hope he runs again, I really do.

Conrad 05-10-2022 01:12 PM

Doesn't the Acorn make sense as the next spot for Echo Zulu?

Great chance to win another Gr1

blackthroatedwind 05-10-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 1164542)
Doesn't the Acorn make sense as the next spot for Echo Zulu?

Great chance to win another Gr1

Of course, which is why she's running there. Should be a great race.

King Glorious 05-10-2022 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1164534)
Once again, connections doing the right thing by their horse disagrees with your assessment.

Then again, Taiba's connections agreed with you. I hope he runs again, I really do.

Sir, you always give your opinions on what you think people should do. Everyone else does also. But when it comes to me, you have a need to point out that it's their horse and they can do what they want. Like I don't know this already. In this case, I didn't even offer up a possible race I'd like to see her in or suggest that her people were wrong. I actually agree with them that she'd be best in sprints. I only said I thought she ran the second best race here.

As for Taiba, I'm pretty sure that they did not run because I thought they should. They came to that conclusion all on their own and based on the odds he went off at, it appears that quite a bit of other people thought he should run too as they felt he had a huge chance to win.

Honestly sir, what have I done to you?

Dahoss 05-10-2022 05:02 PM

I request to be referred to as sir from now on also.

Thanks in advance

blackthroatedwind 05-10-2022 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164548)
I request to be referred to as sir from now on also.

Thanks in advance

Always or when someone is playing the victim?


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