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Danzig 09-10-2008 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.
i think mccain had also used the lipstick on a pig line...but that was before palin used the lipstick on a pit bull reference. obama probably knew it would bring about the reaction he got from his audience, but who cares? it has nothing to do with policy, domestic or foreign.
i made myself listen a bit to some of the conservative radio, a few mins of rush and then sean. one thing hannity said made me laugh. something about attacking a woman. wait a minute. this guy was one who was accusing others of sexism, but isn't that comment the same thing? is she a pol who happens to be a woman, or a woman who's running for an office but is off limits because she's a woman? ridiculous, it's off topic, and tells you nothing about what either candidate will do as president.
and of course if palin/mccain make a mistake, obama will pounce on it. it always cracks me up when either side takes on the role of victim.

ArlJim78 09-10-2008 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SentToStud
There is not one chance in 10,000 that the lipstick-pig reference was not about Palin.
more like 100,000, one would have to be completely naive to not see that. sleazy is too kind. how about blatant misogyny?

How about when he gave Hillary the finger in this video? was that all an innocent misunderstanding? given that he obviously yucks it up with the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

How about when he made these statements about Hillary during the campaign.

“She’s got the kitchen sink flying, and the china flying, and the, you know, the buffet is coming at me.”

“You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out.”

“I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal.”

I don't suppose Obama will ever accuse John McCain of having his claws come out, or throwing china, or launching an attack when he's feeling down.

nobody questions it, nothing to see here, keep moving. afterall this guy is The One, the greatest Orator in history. the change we've been looking for.

any republican that was so causually and openly sexist would be drawn and quartered by the media.

pgardn 09-10-2008 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
more like 100,000, one would have to be completely naive to not see that. sleazy is too kind. how about blatant misogyny?

How about when he gave Hillary the finger in this video? was that all an innocent misunderstanding? given that he obviously yucks it up with the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

How about when he made these statements about Hillary during the campaign.

“She’s got the kitchen sink flying, and the china flying, and the, you know, the buffet is coming at me.”

“You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out.”

“I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal.”

I don't suppose Obama will ever accuse John McCain of having his claws come out, or throwing china, or launching an attack when he's feeling down.

nobody questions it, nothing to see here, keep moving. afterall this guy is The One, the greatest Orator in history. the change we've been looking for.

any republican that was so causually and openly sexist would be drawn and quartered by the media.
Obama has been gutted by FOX.
If you call that media...
Maybe not News, but media.

Anyways, their ratings are very high, so the taxidermy works.

GPK 09-10-2008 07:53 PM
My how times have changed...
 
This is a portion of a letter that John Adams penned to his wife Abigail on Nov. 2, 1800 on moving into the White House.

I pray Heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house and on all that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but honest and wise me ever rule under this roof.


So much for that prayer being answered.

Danzig 09-10-2008 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
more like 100,000, one would have to be completely naive to not see that. sleazy is too kind. how about blatant misogyny?

How about when he gave Hillary the finger in this video? was that all an innocent misunderstanding? given that he obviously yucks it up with the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

How about when he made these statements about Hillary during the campaign.

“She’s got the kitchen sink flying, and the china flying, and the, you know, the buffet is coming at me.”

“You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out.”

“I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal.”

I don't suppose Obama will ever accuse John McCain of having his claws come out, or throwing china, or launching an attack when he's feeling down.

nobody questions it, nothing to see here, keep moving. afterall this guy is The One, the greatest Orator in history. the change we've been looking for.

any republican that was so causually and openly sexist would be drawn and quartered by the media.

wow!!

i still thinks it's a shame that a guy who is in a position of power is labelled tough, a fighter, a leader, takes a stand, won't back down, etc.
a woman is a bitch or on the rag.

dalakhani 09-10-2008 08:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

hi_im_god 09-10-2008 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
This is a portion of a letter that John Adams penned to his wife Abigail on Nov. 2, 1800 on moving into the White House.

I pray Heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house and on all that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but honest and wise men ever rule under this roof.


So much for that prayer being answered.
the brits burned that one down in 1814. but we get the leadership we deserve.

rabble rabble rabble!

dalakhani 09-10-2008 08:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPnfn...eature=related

Coach Pants 09-10-2008 08:59 PM
Olbermann digging up jokes from the Huey Lewis days.

hi_im_god 09-10-2008 09:11 PM
i'm worried now al queda will get the clue and pick a female as their #2.

apparently that's all it would take to have hillary voter's reconsider islamic extremism.

pgardn 09-10-2008 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
wow!!

i still thinks it's a shame that a guy who is in a position of power is labelled tough, a fighter, a leader, takes a stand, won't back down, etc.
a woman is a bitch or on the rag.
Finally.

I was worried you actually overlooked this.
This is what the pro-Hillary crowd was trying
to point out. Now I know you dont appreciate her,
but you understand the crux of her followers
frustration.

And you know you face this at work also.
At some point this has got to frustrate the
crap out of you.

ArlJim78 09-10-2008 09:29 PM
please someone show me one instance in the past where Obama used the lipstick on pig reference. if he ever uttered it in public before I would cut him some slack, but i would bet yesterday was the first time which tells you everything you need to know.

geeker2 09-10-2008 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
please someone show me one instance in the past where Obama used the lipstick on pig reference. if he ever uttered it in public before I would cut him some slack, but i would bet yesterday was the first time which tells you everything you need to know.

I noticed his wife wears lipstick...does that count?





(That's as far as I am going on this one Jim) :D

dalakhani 09-10-2008 09:47 PM
I think that this is all just pigment envy

hi_im_god 09-10-2008 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
please someone show me one instance in the past where Obama used the lipstick on pig reference. if he ever uttered it in public before I would cut him some slack, but i would bet yesterday was the first time which tells you everything you need to know.
look everyone, just ignore the bad economy and unpopular war.

this election is actually about misogynists. and the republicans are winning!

who'd have thunk!

Danzig 09-10-2008 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Finally.

I was worried you actually overlooked this.
This is what the pro-Hillary crowd was trying
to point out. Now I know you dont appreciate her,
but you understand the crux of her followers
frustration.

And you know you face this at work also.
At some point this has got to frustrate the
crap out of you.
oh yeah, i face it. i'll be at an account with a male employee, and invariably someone who doesn't know us will automatically assume i'm the subordinate. i absolutely understand it, and it is very frustrating.

dalakhani 09-10-2008 10:18 PM
How many of you watched the obama interview on O'reilly factor? Was it just me or did O'reilly seem charmed?

Amazingly, I thought Oreilly did a good job.

pgardn 09-10-2008 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalakhani
How many of you watched the obama interview on O'reilly factor? Was it just me or did O'reilly seem charmed?

Amazingly, I thought Oreilly did a good job.
Ground rules had to be carefully laid out.
FOX knows how to make the ratings.

dalakhani 09-10-2008 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Ground rules had to be carefully laid out.
FOX knows how to make the ratings.


Yes you are right though. I am sure Obama would not have gone on without a list of the questions that would be asked.

Either way, I think both men came away looking good. I was impressed with how both men handled the interview.


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