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horseofcourse 04-20-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
We see the game completely different. The Cavs are very lucky Washington choked late.

They missed shots late. The Cavs missed shots early...5 for their first 22. did the Cavs choke early?? Every game is not won or lost due to choking. The Cavs adjusted to the very good defense Stevenson played on James early and the early misses. I mean it's a bit ridiculous, you could say the Cavs win by 20 if they don't shoot 5 for their first 22. But you really can't say that. I guess perhaps it is choking...but how really did you see the game differently?? Other than you calling it choking. That is not seeing the game differently at all.

What didn't you see?/ 24 assists on 30 baskets?? did you not see that??. Feeding the ball to Z?? Did you not see that?? LeBron not taking a 3 pointer the last 44 minutes of the game?? DId you not see that??

What did you see that was so different?? Luck is part of everything. OF course the Wizards went cold late...so what? The other stuff happened too.

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
I should have known Horse would lie.


The facts are Bid did not refute one single thing I wrote. End of story.

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Nice first game?

Brown was still running offensive sets through Verajo with 2 minutes left, down 2. The offense is terrible, Szerbiak cannot shoot at all, Im almost embarrassed hes white. Without some very key misses by Washington the Cavs are down. They didnt outplay Washington to the tune of 10 points. The game they played last night simply wont get it done with a decent team. It may not get it done with Washington

A win is still a win. They did things better than they have been. You guys are so anti Brown and anti LeBron you refuse to see anything. Find me the last game they had 4 guys with 4 or more assists. Find me the last game they had assists on 80 percent of their buckets. Find me the problem with offensive sets under 2 and a half minutes when down 2 and then with 55 seconds left you are up 4?? You have problems with 6 point swings in one minute??

For shooting under 40 percent...they got as much out of their offense as they possibly could. The ball movement was much better than it had been.

It means nothing...and they could still lose the series...I never said they played a great game. You're talking about a team that lost 3 straight to the Chicago Bulls minus Drew gooden...I think winning a playoff game qualifies as a nice win

I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

Mortimer 04-20-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
The facts are Bid did not refute one single thing I wrote. End of story.


I should have known the Bidster is a BIG LIAH!

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 11:27 AM

Honestly what would you guys come back with if I said grass was green??

Jesus Christ...I saw a team that had quite frankly played some putrid basketball the last 3 weeks actually come out and win a playoff game and I said nice game.

Grass is green.

Mortimer 04-20-2008 11:40 AM

Now wait a minute.




I said I did not see the game.

So I do not know the truthful version.

I said you both lied.









OK?


















By the way....ever heard of Kentucky Blue Grass?

Mortimer 04-20-2008 12:09 PM

One thing I think we all can agree on is the Indians line up would revive JoeB's career were he on all the teams we will face.



We're in huge trouble here.

The Bid 04-20-2008 03:07 PM

The Cavs didnt do anything except let Lebron carry them. The Cavs have the worst coach in the business. You want to see a well coached team watch the Jazz. They dont make mistakes, they execute perfectly, they hit the boards, they make open looks, they play team defense, and they HUSTLE. Thats how well coached teams play. They dont run up and down the court and fire from the hip. The Jazz dont have a loaded roster, but they play the most complete team game in the league.

The Cavs will always live and die by Lebron because thats how they are coached. To just keep it close until the forth and hope Lebron can carry you home. That sir, is poor coaching

Mortimer 04-20-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
The Cavs didnt do anything except let Lebron carry them. The Cavs have the worst coach in the business. You want to see a well coached team watch the Jazz. They dont make mistakes, they execute perfectly, they hit the boards, they make open looks, they play team defense, and they HUSTLE. Thats how well coached teams play. They dont run up and down the court and fire from the hip. The Jazz dont have a loaded roster, but they play the most complete team game in the league.

The Cavs will always live and die by Lebron because thats how they are coached. To just keep it close until the forth and hope Lebron can carry you home. That sir, is poor coaching

I can say that I have witnessed this thing too many times.


Now Horsey is once again the BIG LIAH!

The Bid 04-20-2008 03:14 PM

Asdrubal made a great play yesterday at SS that Heres Johnny couldnt make in a dream. Charged a ball and released smoothly getting the runner by a step. Today heres Johnny tried it and couldnt get the ball out of his glove, and was winded for 3 innings afterwards

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 05:04 PM

Peralta stinks, Sabathia stinks, Mike Brown stinks, LeBron doesn't get it, I got it.

Fine Bid, the Jazz play the right way. They play better than Cleveland. They are simply a better team than Cleveland. The facts simply are the Cavs played a pretty good game yesterday. I didn't say they were going to win the series...or that they would repeat that performance or anything. I said for one game they played pretty well. As I said 24 assists on 30 made baskets is a remarkable achievement for the Cavs and a ball movement challenged team. And LeBron James did not dominate the ball yesterday as often happens. THAT MY FRIEND IS NOT PLAYING THE GAME FIRING FROM THE HIP. The Jazz by comparison had 22 assists on 38 made baskets. So in essence, yesterday the Jazz played more firing from the hip type stuff than Cleveland did.

I have not seen you make one comment on that point I made. Because you simply can't. It is simply easier to just mock my statements.

And the facts are it was not all about LeBron bailing them out yesterday. LeBron sat on the bench starting the 4th down 69-65. 3 minutes later they were up 73-70 when LeBron re-entered the game. They went on an 8-1 run with LBJ on the bench. But again why let the facts get in the way of pre-conceived notions. LeBron did what a star is supposed to...scored 6 straight when they were down 2.

never...never...ever let facts alter anything that goes on in your minds. Again, they have not played well at all since the trade losing 3 straight to Chicago...2 straight to Milwaukee, and many other shabby performances. A postseason win no matter how it comes is simply a good win for this outfit. Crazily, that evidently is not the correct opinion to have. I guess a struggling team winning a post season game is supposed to make me outraged!! You can't even compliment wins.

Amazing that even a statement that a post season win is nice is ripped to shreds on here. Whatever. I know you both eagerly await a poor performance Monday by LeBron, MIke Brown, whomever so I can provide more endless entertainment!!! :D :D :D

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 05:10 PM

I guess this is an Indians thread...Nice week wasting two quality starts by Byrd (maybe his dentist found new ways to get him HGH!) and two by Westbrook. (On the bright side they didn't waste any quality starts by Sabathia this week...those don't exist anymore!!!)

Mortimer 04-20-2008 05:10 PM

Here's Jhonny does stink .



So do 13.50 era's.

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Here's Jhonny does stink does stink.




So do 13.50 era's.


Correct. Amazingly, Jhonny does stink, yet still leads the team in major offensive categories. What does that say about the rest of the team that an abysmal ball player like Peralta is leading you in runs scored?? Holy crap.

Mortimer 04-20-2008 05:43 PM

It means what I said earlier.....we are in HUGE trouble.

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 07:54 PM

It could be worse Bid and Avery...we could all be Detroit fans right now!!

GBBob 04-20-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
It could be worse Bid and Avery...we could all be Detroit fans right now!!

I'd rather be a Cleveland fan right now instead of a Detroit fan. The closer thing is a problem, but CC is not going to go 2-18 this year and they will hit.

and..and..I think the Cavs lose to the Celtics in the East finals

pgardn 04-20-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
It could be worse Bid and Avery...we could all be Detroit fans right now!!

You guys need to be rewarded for being
Cleveland fans. Nothing could be worse.

The suffering endured must be immense.
But when Cleveland wins a championship,
it will be awesome. I would think...

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I'd rather be a Cleveland fan right now instead of a Detroit fan. The closer thing is a problem, but CC is not going to go 2-18 this year and they will hit.

and..and..I think the Cavs lose to the Celtics in the East finals


If the Cavs are lucky enough to play the Celtics it will be next round...not in th eEastern finals.

horseofcourse 04-20-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
You guys need to be rewarded for being
Cleveland fans. Nothing could be worse.

The suffering endured must be immense.
But when Cleveland wins a championship,
it will be awesome. I would think...

there is nothing better in my opinion than to be a Cleveland fan. (that's why I put up with Avery and Bid!!). I fight with them, but they're usually right!

....and I have promised myself that I won't die til a Cleveland team wins a title...(in my mind that makes me immortal I'd imagine!)


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