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moses 05-19-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1126790)
Plenty of peeps were ill that he missed second by an inch.....

Oh, I’m sure - and maybe it cost him 2nd but I couldn’t fault the ride too much. I had Owendale keyed in my trifecta so him finishing 2nd and 3rd didn’t matter to me. Problem was that I didn’t see Everfast as having a legit shot to finish anywhere near the money and he wasn’t on a single one of my tickets. Maybe that’s just confirmation for something I already knew - Robby Albarado is not a very good jockey and Rosario is.

Dahoss 05-19-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1126789)
Anyone have thoughts on Owendale’s trip? I’m hearing and seeing a lot of people that think he lost too much ground going wide — but I didn’t think his trip was that bad. Maybe swung wide a little early but he’s got a running style where you want to get him clear.

I wonder what would have happened had he been taken back closer to where Everfast was. He also got beaten to the inside by Signalman, but I feel like if Geroux was a little more aggressive he could have gotten to that spot. All in all, not a bad trip, but a little nuance and he’s 2nd.

casp0555 05-19-2019 03:18 PM

https://twitter.com/i/status/1129885812093534208

talk about a happy winner :tro: and look who is in the background, Steve and Tina!

ninetoone 05-19-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1126797)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1129885812093534208

talk about a happy winner :tro: and look who is in the background, Steve and Tina!


Steve, the definition of "unfazed" in the video....hahahaha!

Kasept 05-20-2019 07:23 AM

6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

War of Will (Casse)
Sir Winston (Casse)
Intrepid Heart (Pletcher)
Spinoff (Pletcher)
Master Fencer (Tsunoda)
Tacitus (Mott)
Everfast (Romans)
Owendale (Cox)
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby

moses 05-20-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1126821)
6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

War of Will (Casse)
Sir Winston (Casse)
Intrepid Heart (Pletcher)
Spinoff (Pletcher)
Master Fencer (Tsunoda)
Tacitus (Mott)
Everfast (Romans)
Owendale (Cox)
Game Winner (Baffert)
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby

With how things are going, I’m going to have to include Spinoff in my bets because I have no clue why he’s in the race.

cal828 05-20-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1126824)
With how things are going, I’m going to have to include Spinoff in my bets because I have no clue why he’s in the race.

One of the more colorful quotes I've heard about the Belmont is: "that horse couldn't get the distance on the back of a flatbed truck." I guess Pletcher thinks this one could get the distance without the services of the truck?

ElPrado 05-20-2019 05:11 PM

A horse trailer might help.

cakes44 05-20-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1126844)
One of the more colorful quotes I've heard about the Belmont is: "that horse couldn't get the distance on the back of a flatbed truck." I guess Pletcher thinks this one could get the distance without the services of the truck?

Tough to toss Pletcher in the Belmont.

cal828 05-20-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1126847)
Tough to toss Pletcher in the Belmont.

I didn't say toss him, although it might sound like that. I was just offering a possible explanation for why Pletcher is entering him which is he obviously thinks he can get the distance.

richard burch 05-20-2019 09:44 PM

6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

War of Will (Casse)
Sir Winston (Casse)
Intrepid Heart (Pletcher)
Spinoff (Pletcher)
Master Fencer (Tsunoda)
Tacitus (Mott)
Everfast (Romans)
Owendale (Cox)
Game Winner (Baffert)......by (CANDY RIDE (ARG) - INDYAN GIVING, BY A.P. INDY )...AP Indy, who won the Peter Pan and the Belmont in 1992.
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby....( CURLIN - GLOBE TROT, BY A.P. INDY )....and its a Filly in the Belmont! but Curlin was close.



Pedigree plays.

moses 05-21-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1126844)
One of the more colorful quotes I've heard about the Belmont is: "that horse couldn't get the distance on the back of a flatbed truck." I guess Pletcher thinks this one could get the distance without the services of the truck?

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1126847)
Tough to toss Pletcher in the Belmont.

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1126849)
I didn't say toss him, although it might sound like that. I was just offering a possible explanation for why Pletcher is entering him which is he obviously thinks he can get the distance.

I actually like Spinoff’s pedigree a bit for the Belmont...he just hasn’t run like he wants the distance.

RolloTomasi 05-21-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1126853)
6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES
Game Winner (Baffert)......by (CANDY RIDE (ARG) - INDYAN GIVING, BY A.P. INDY )...AP Indy, who won the Peter Pan and the Belmont in 1992.
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby....( CURLIN - GLOBE TROT, BY A.P. INDY )....and its a Filly in the Belmont! but Curlin was close.



Pedigree plays.

Pretty bold ignoring 2 sons of Tapit when playing pedigrees. One of those is Intrepid Heart, who is also a half to Belmont runner-up Commissioner and his broodmare sire is Belmont winner Touch Gold.

richard burch 05-21-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1126889)
Pretty bold ignoring 2 sons of Tapit when playing pedigrees. One of those is Intrepid Heart, who is also a half to Belmont runner-up Commissioner and his broodmare sire is Belmont winner Touch Gold.


Not ignoring them, there are others too who might have a pedigree angle. Was just looking for something off.

Rupert Pupkin 05-24-2019 02:41 PM

In case anyone missed it, Baffert said Game Winner will skip the Belmont.

Kasept 05-31-2019 05:08 PM

Bourbon War added to Belmont field..

Alabama Stakes 05-31-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1127230)
Bourbon War added to Belmont field..

Could be the bet of the year kind of like Creator

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-31-2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1127231)
Could be the bet of the year kind of like Creator

not off that Preakness effort! :rolleyes:

ninetoone 06-01-2019 07:05 AM

BW starting to remind me of Dollar Bill....

Hickory Hill Hoff 06-01-2019 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone (Post 1127238)
BW starting to remind me of Dollar Bill....

exactly! :tro:


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