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Riot 10-19-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 811885)
read up, on glass- steagall. of course you read quite often these days that republicans introduced legislation to repeal G/S, but you don't see many who mention it was clinton who signed it into law. actually, i didn't know who was president when it was repealed, til reading this.

The first minute of this video is very powerful and simplistic and perfectly explainatory, regarding financial regulation and "how we got here" as the US industrialized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI

dellinger63 10-19-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 811888)
The first minute of this video is very powerful and simplistic and perfectly explainatory, regarding financial regulation and "how we got here" as the US industrialized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI

and this story explains even better 'how we got here'

an adult baby, fully able to work, living with a now deceased obese women, whining. WAAAAAAHHHHH

In a much larger sense we got here because of government programs not the ability or desire of Americans' to work. And to think SSI money this whining piglet was receiving comes out of the SS fund, that citizens pay into but were worried they wouldn't receive is disgraceful! Fully fund the SS reserve account with actual investments YESTERDAY!


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=all#pagebreak

Riot 10-19-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 811896)
and this story explains even better 'how we got here'

an adult baby, fully able to work, living with a now deceased obese women, whining. WAAAAAAHHHHH

In a much larger sense we got here because of government programs not the ability or desire of Americans' to work. And to think SSI money this whining piglet was receiving comes out of the SS fund, that citizens pay into but were worried they wouldn't receive is disgraceful! Fully fund the SS reserve account with actual investments YESTERDAY!

Sorry, no. SSI funds are paid, quoting your own article, "The funds are paid out of general taxpayer revenues, not from payroll taxes."

You really should read what you get angry about.

clyde 10-19-2011 07:42 PM

Grout Bags and Fabriform are made and sold by the Intrusion Prepakt Company.These are woven nylon containers into which specially formulated cement mixtures are pumped.

Their use is many fold and does include revetments as well as knee walls for bridge abutment protection by water.

Fabriform is also used as an erosion control method under bridges on the slopes at each end.It has a "waffle" appearance.

Perhaps some of you have seen them.

Rileyoriley 10-19-2011 07:49 PM

I had waffles last weekend but they were made by Eggo not Fabriform.

clyde 10-19-2011 08:05 PM

Girly....





Oh never mind.

dellinger63 10-19-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 811914)
Sorry, no. SSI funds are paid, quoting your own article, "The funds are paid out of general taxpayer revenues, not from payroll taxes."

You really should read what you get angry about.

SS funds are also paid out of general taxpayer revenues. As soon as payroll taxes get to the treasury they get marked down and thrown into the same pile. The treasury supposedly holds over a trillion and a half of IOU's in the name of SS and a short time ago was in danger of missing a payment? No this adult 'baby' is stealing from the country and you're predictably making excuses for him. :zz:

well done :tro:

Danzig 10-19-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 811914)
Sorry, no. SSI funds are paid, quoting your own article, "The funds are paid out of general taxpayer revenues, not from payroll taxes."

You really should read what you get angry about.

exactly what is your point about nitpicking on this? either way, taxpayers are paying for this fellow to pretend to be a baby. exactly what is his disability?
whether thru payroll taxes, or general revenue, those of us working are supporting this guy. absolutely ridiculous.

edit-ssdi, from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...lity_Insurance

Social Security Disability Insurance (SSD or SSDI) is a payroll tax-funded, federal insurance program of the United States government. It is managed by the Social Security Administration and is designed to provide income supplements to people who are physically restricted in their ability to be employed because of a notable disability, usually a physical disability. SSD can be supplied on either a temporary or permanent basis, usually directly correlated to whether the person's disability is temporary or permanent.

Unlike Supplemental Security Income (SSI), SSD does not depend on the income of the disabled individual receiving it. A "legitimately" (i.e. according to the Americans with Disabilities Act, and via other similar legal and medical backing) disabled person of any income level can theoretically receive SSD. Most SSI recipients are below an administratively-mandated income threshold, and indeed these individuals must in fact stay below that threshold to continue receiving SSI; but this is not the case with SSD.

Informal names for SSDI include Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB) and Title II benefits, named for the chapter title of the governing section of the Social Security Act.

Riot 10-19-2011 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 811945)
SS funds are also paid out of general taxpayer revenues. As soon as payroll taxes get to the treasury they get marked down and thrown into the same pile. The treasury supposedly holds over a trillion and a half of IOU's in the name of SS and a short time ago was in danger of missing a payment? No this adult 'baby' is stealing from the country and you're predictably making excuses for him. :zz:

well done :tro:

First, nice try, fail.

Secondly, no, I'm not "making excuses" for him, I even didn't comment on him. I commented only on you, and your inevitable disconnect from reality whenever trying to justify your self-rightous indignation about others you hate.

Riot 10-19-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 811949)
exactly what is your point about nitpicking on this? either way, taxpayers are paying for this fellow to pretend to be a baby. exactly what is his disability?

What does his being weird have to do with it? Let's make sure those that have weird fetishes don't get government benefits? That would put a dent in Congress, no?

A Senator asked for his benefits to be reviewed, and apparently the guy passed under that increased scruitiny (goodness knows how, but he did). Seeing that "acting like a baby" doesn't fall under the requirements to obtain SSI, and isn't anybody's business but his own, and his medical record can't be published, I doubt that's the reason he gets it.

And nitpicking matters. This guy isn't getting SSDI out of our payroll taxes, he's getting something out of a completely different fund.

Dell is screaming about funding the Social Security Trust fund, and using this an example - but this guy isn't getting any monies out of the Social Security Trust Fund.

If you guys want to play, "all funds are 100% fungible", that's a big stretch.


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Supplemental Security Income (or SSI) - Not to be confused with Social Security Disability Insurance - is a United States government program that provides stipends to low-income people who are either aged (65 or older), blind, or disabled.[1] Although administered by the Social Security Administration,[2] SSI is funded from the U.S. Treasury general funds,[1] not the Social Security trust fund.

clyde 10-19-2011 09:50 PM

And perhaps you haven't.

Danzig 10-19-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 811952)
What does his being weird have to do with it? Let's make sure those that have weird fetishes don't get government benefits? That would put a dent in Congress, no?

A Senator asked for his benefits to be reviewed, and apparently the guy passed under that increased scruitiny (goodness knows how, but he did). Seeing that "acting like a baby" doesn't fall under the requirements to obtain SSI, and isn't anybody's business but his own, and his medical record can't be published, I doubt that's the reason he gets it.

And nitpicking matters. This guy isn't getting SSDI out of our payroll taxes, he's getting something out of a completely different fund.

Dell is screaming about funding the Social Security Trust fund, and using this an example - but this guy isn't getting any monies out of the Social Security Trust Fund.

If you guys want to play, "all funds are 100% fungible", that's a big stretch.

like i said, what's his disability? i don't care if he's 'weird', but from reading the article, the fellow has woodworking skills.
and nitpicking doesn't matter when the gist is that the govt isn't exactly being good stewards of our money. people get that there are those who need help; it's when you see examples of waste and fraud that people get angry...and rightfully so. some of us feel like fools at times when we work our tails off, only to see people who are capable of earning living off the dole. and it happens, we all know it does.

Clip-Clop 10-20-2011 09:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJPKMvWDmY

This cracked me up. Interviewing the occupiers.

Riot 10-20-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 811972)
like i said, what's his disability? i don't care if he's 'weird', but from reading the article, the fellow has woodworking skills.
and nitpicking doesn't matter when the gist is that the govt isn't exactly being good stewards of our money.

Well, they can't release his medical records, yet he survived a Senator-ordered, "We suspect you're gaming the system" review and still won, so :zz: But whatever it is, it must be 100% solid.

I was thinking about the woodworking thing .. in Finland (Denmark?) if you are unemployed, they pay you a stipend and the government will give you a no-interest loan so you can start your own business if you want. Unemployment practically non-existent there. But obviously a much smaller country, with narrower range of variety in how people think. Even if the crazy-baby guy has some skills and wanted to, there's no way, on SSI, he'd be able to afford to start making furniture to sell. He already lost his home. Shame that in America, the way to pull yourself up is to get a reality TV show.

Antitrust32 10-20-2011 02:55 PM

he's a fucl<ing lunatic.. that's his disability.

Antitrust32 10-20-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 812086)
He already lost his home. Shame that in America, the way to pull yourself up is to get a reality TV show.

how's he going to pull himself up when he wears pull ups?


Where's Charles Darwin when you need him?

jms62 10-20-2011 03:23 PM

Interested in everyones opinion on this...

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...nators-propose

Clip-Clop 10-20-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 812112)
Interested in everyones opinion on this...

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...nators-propose

It isn't the worst idea I have ever heard. No renting it out though. Would need to be occupied by the purchaser for a predetermined period. I also agree with the engineering degree etc grads getting to stay. MIT diploma = citizenship. Why let them leave.

jms62 10-20-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 812115)
It isn't the worst idea I have ever heard. No renting it out though. Would need to be occupied by the purchaser for a predetermined period. I also agree with the engineering degree etc grads getting to stay. MIT diploma = citizenship. Why let them leave.

It's not like there are US Citizens looking for a job or anything.

Riot 10-20-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 812121)
It's not like there are US Citizens looking for a job or anything.

Or places to, you know, live.


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