Petsmart makes it easy these days..you just have to go to the ones in France like Bianconne.

This dude will do it for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Haast

I guess some people just don't realize, what's going to happen when the general public and the casual bettor ( lets say a couple of OTB visits a month) find out, just how crooked this business can be and is.

Sure they all suspect there is cheating but when some large news organizations, take your pick HBO, 60 Minutes, EsPN, etc... exposes one of the top level cheaters, the big national names and they nail, really nail them. And expose the fast and loose frequency of the cheating everywhere across North America.

What happens then??? Say a Kentucky Derby winner gets exposed six weeks after the fact. Today with 24 hour news organizations needing to fill time aka Tiger, gate crashers, balloon boy. Do you really think it stops with that particular incident or does every station in every town w/ a racetrack expose there local cheats, deserved or undeserved.

When does the sport recover from that? Does the sport recover from that or is it the final nail, leaving only slot money and insiders.

As for if its not tested for, then its not illegal.......how about this..... a douche bag changes one atom/molecule etc. in a date rape drug.

It's not illegal cause there not testing for it, cause they don't know it exists.................but its the same thing as the previous drug/same effect except its legal, only because its not specifically illegal. I'll say it. ITS JUST AS DISGUSTING


Thanks to Cannon Shell for saying as much as he did/was able to say in a public forum

So, listeners, do you appreciate what is being said about McLaughlin on ATR right now?

What was said?

NT

As part of a much broader conversation in relation to his presentations at the Symposium and in relation to the BC proposal on Class 1/2 suspensions, Alan Foreman, who represents KMc in the case, said that they are going to work to clear Kiaran of the charge after the fact and that he did nothing wrong.

As with all "big" outfits there are way to many horses for the Top Dog to know what is going on. Now his brother Neal on the other hand is an interesting character to watch around track in the mornings. Also intersting that you can't get to close to his barn at Saratoga when the medicine doctor(vet) shows up.

Old saying boyz...Where there is smoke there usually is fire.


Scat

You can't really "get into" anybody's barn when the vet is there. It's nobody's business what is going on with any horses not your own.

Do you believe the vet information that is available on all CA horses should not be available to the public?

Interesting....spent a lot time at Godolphin's barn this summer when the vet was there? Totally disagree that it is "nobody's" business. That's the problem it is our business.

Scat

Didn't Foreman also represent Biancone and make the same assertion? I know he has a client to represent, but those kind of statements can hurt your credibility in other cases?

I wonder if Albertrani has any interest in contacting this attorney.

It's nice Godolphin let you watch.

It is nobody's business if a horse is getting it's hocks injected, if it's getting nebulized, etc. Believe me, if you worked for another trainer, or were another trainer, you'd not be welcomed with open arms to observe what horse was getting what.

No, that's the deal there.

I don't think the complete medical records on a horse should be public. That differs by jurisdiction, the US is the least forthcoming, I think.

He certainly seemed to be making his case in public.