LOL @ someone who'd rather talk about supposed gaffes than issues saying all I have is topic changing.

That's all your crew does is change topics, somehow getting the American people to care about stupid **** like comments about pigs instead of the issues.

Yeah..no way he would be stupid enough to do this..it may energize the Palin haters - but he is going to get their votes anyway....and a comment like this is not going to sway the middle of the roaders.

He'll recover from this - but a gaff like this 1 week before Election Day would be a death-blow.

karl Rove is going to go down some day as the greatest spin doctor of all time. The fact that he could sell Bush as some sort of military leader against a guy who actually served in combat is amazing. Now, they are actually selling McCain as some sort of "agent of change" LOL. Amazing.

And this forum is proof that there are people out there that actually bite on it.

Rove's confidence in the average man's supidity is justified i would say.

and now for something comepletly different
 

Boy, this is from deep left field...or would that be right field:

http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

Also, Palin's biggest problem is she sounds earily like someone from Saturday Night Live. I keep thinking I'm hearing a skit about politics.

worked with clinton vs dole.

who is that guy?! and yeah, how DARE obamas people try to make mccain and his running mate look bad. what kind of argument is that? and then, he says obama shouldn't go after the pregnancy issue, but then bashes obamas mother?! i would define that as hypocrisy.

Thats news. Did they sell Clinton as a military leader and discredit Dole's service?

Furthermore you are acting as if that was some kind of polarizng argument. Was that even a contest? Clinton crushed him.

clinton was mentioned as having commander in chief experience since he was head of the arkansas national guard. and dole was a military hero. it's a similar situation, as was clinton being accused of being too young, not having enough foreign policy experience, etc. the parallels are there. and clinton for the most part did just fine, so i'd say that the lack of military experience itself is not a really good argument as to whether you could be a good president or not. certainly didn't make grant a good president.

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i'm not acting as if it was anything, i'm just saying in every contest you have each side pointing the same fingers, using the same arguments, as in the past. clinton had no military experience, and dole did. then you had bush with only national guard experience, and kerry who served in vietnam.

Im sorry i think you misunderstood the point.

Rove's tactics attempted to discredit the bravery and patriotism of a guy that had served in combat and prop up Bush as some sort of defender of the country even though he dodged the draft.

How did that have anything to do with Clinton's tactics vs. Dole? I fail to see the connection.

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Clinton left it off of the table though. Rove tactics brings it to the front and turns it.

Bring out the dates with White Women. That's gunna be what they use if they starting getting behind, and need a miracle.

The only people that are gunna "bite on it" are people who already like or dislike the parties involved. Nobody that's "undecided" is gunna give a damn about this folksy metaphor. It's annoying to them(that people try to pick words apart etc.,) but, in the end, it doesn't make any difference. It only makes a difference to those looking to sway the undecided. Like ARLJIM. He seemed to feel good about it, but I don't think the undecided care about this stuff. They might care about the fact somebody has phoney outrage etc., but I doubt that, too. Now, if they bring out dates with white women, then that may work.

Obama's response was beautiful:

It's late in the process. They are starting to really pick at each other now. Just be glad that EX-SENATOR GEORGE guy isn't involved. That guy did some weird stuff in the 70's. I can't believe somebody knew he did that stuff, and waited that many years to cough it up.