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Gander 02-09-2007 07:48 PM

Is he a horse that has won 2 races in Feb of his 4 year old year? Yes.

I dont get this? Jazil hasnt won any races since the Belmont Stakes. Can you explain?

Hooves, I wont argue with maybe Jara did move too early, but do you think it cost him any different finishing position? I know you stated a fact, regardless of how good Corinthian was, Jara may have movd too soon. But in my opinion if he waited he would have still been 2nd best, only maybe 3 lengths better at best.

And I dont get the whole "he only cost $25K" argument. Who the heck cares how much horses cost except for the owner? It should make no difference at all to the fans, none. Zip. Nada. The argument is how good a horse Jazil is compared to other triple crown winners.

Like Canon, I will stay firm with my opinion. Doesnt not make him a neat little horse. Ya like him, ya like him.

Cannon Shell 02-09-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Is he a horse that has won 2 races in Feb of his 4 year old year? Yes.

I dont get this? Jazil hasnt won any races since the Belmont Stakes. Can you explain?

He is a four year old horse who owns two lifetime wins.

Gander 02-09-2007 07:56 PM

Okay, that makes sense Chuck.

2 lifetime wins is all? Sounds like a "Giacomo" to me.

Now that I think of it, the similarities are very significant.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I never revised my opinion on the horse . Until proven otherwise he is a 2nd tier handicap horse that needs a distance that he will not get and has a style that makes it tough for him on the dirt.

Picking up checks is great for those on the Dee Tee stable budget but you expect a little more from Classic winners. The fact that he has lost three times in three chances in allowances races does not lead me to believe that he is on his way to the head of the class anytime soon.

Well,if he is so pathetic,then surely you will give me 10-1 odds on him winning a Grade 2 or better in 2007.If he is just gunna pick up minor checks,then you can easily pick up a hundred or 2 from SCUDS.Just give me a minimum of 5 starts(any level) in the rest of 2007.

Cannon Shell 02-09-2007 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well,if he is so pathetic,then surely you will give me 10-1 odds on him winning a Grade 2 or better in 2007.If he is just gunna pick up minor checks,then you can easily pick up a hundred or 2 from SCUDS.Just give me a minimum of 5 starts(any level) in the rest of 2007.

How about I give you 10-1 that he doesn't make 5 more starts in 2007?

Scav 02-09-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
How about I give you 10-1 that he doesn't make 5 more starts in 2007?

That is a little aggressive....Bernardini made what, 7 total starts, maybe 6...plus if Jazil goes to Dubai, he doesn't get back on track until September, if at all.....bad bet in my opinion, the win bet though, has some teeth to it I think, but I am a 3rd party, so I should C my way out of it

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
How about I give you 10-1 that he doesn't make 5 more starts in 2007?

Why would I bet that? Any of them can get a chip.

POINTGIVEN1985 02-09-2007 08:48 PM

scuds brother... i had to return for this.. i will give you 10-1 that he wont win a grade 2 or better this year, for any amount of money you want on it.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
scuds brother... i had to return for this.. i will give you 10-1 that he wont win a grade 2 or better this year, for any amount of money you want on it.

Give me 5 starts minimum(he could have a chip right now..who knows..)

You get my $200,or I get your 2k.Any Grade 2 or better(anywhere on the Earth in 2007.)

POINTGIVEN1985 02-09-2007 08:54 PM

scudsbrother when you see this you give me a pm or do it on here whatever you want to do , i will take any amount on it, and i am a man of my word if he wins you get all your money, and i'd expect the same from you

Scav 02-09-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Give me 5 starts minimum(he could have a chip right now..who knows..)

You get my $200,or I get your 2k.Any Grade 2 or better(anywhere on the Earth in 2007.)

HILARIOUS....anywhere on Earth..

Check your PM

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
scudsbrother when you see this you give me a pm or do it on here whatever you want to do , i will take any amount on it, and i am a man of my word if he wins you get all your money, and i'd expect the same from you

See you at Belmont,son.

miraja2 02-09-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i am a man of my word if he wins you get all your money

Man of your word huh?
Interesting.
What about these words of yours from earlier today:
"i wont be posting anything here anymore"

Scav 02-09-2007 09:04 PM

What is great about this, is that we have a BINDING agreement between two people, and when Jazil wins, PG1985 is out 2k.......

POINTGIVEN1985 02-09-2007 10:13 PM

no im not giving you 5 starts .... you said 10-1 that he wins a grade 2 this year, i will give you 20-1, but not 5 starts
if you agree then post back

and the only reasson i am back posting is because of this

POINTGIVEN1985 02-09-2007 10:14 PM

and if i win when do i get paid, the day he's retired or jan 1, 08

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
and if i win when do i get paid, the day he's retired or jan 1, 08

Nobody thinks you will pay anyways.

pgardn 02-09-2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
For some reason I see this bet ending the same way Bababooyee's Keeneland bet ended up. he saw no money....

Who was the poster that did not pay up? I hate this type of person. This type of person messes with my world.

Danzig 02-09-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
That is a little aggressive....Bernardini made what, 7 total starts, maybe 6...plus if Jazil goes to Dubai, he doesn't get back on track until September, if at all.....bad bet in my opinion, the win bet though, has some teeth to it I think, but I am a 3rd party, so I should C my way out of it

bern made 8 starts i believe.
and invasor wasn't out til september. so who knows?

and i note that above, when scuds first mentioned a bet, he was asking for a min 5 starts.


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