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CSC 07-25-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 673563)
She could have pulled a zenyatta and barely beat the tin cans.

I'm just glad to see the Rachel roadshow continue. She has now raced in more states this year than zenyatta has raced in her entire career. Shipping all the way to Kentucky, only to scratch on the day that Rachel is crowned the queen with a romp in the Oaks, doesn't count. zenyatta's connections weren't scared of the rainy conditions that day - they were scared of being outshined by Rachel Alexandra.

She missed a state earlier this year if you want to be be anal about it, let's not be too selective here, quite challenging racing state to state, especially if one travels from N.Y to N.J or Louisiana to Louisville.

Danzig 07-25-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 673593)
How does Queen Martha stack up against Tap Tam, Dance To My Tune, and Anabaa's Creation.

what does it matter? honestly, i really wish both these horses would either do something worth talking about, or retire. rachel this year is nothing compared to last year. her competition this year isn't on par, neither are her performances. admittedly, last year would be a hard year to duplicate. her campaign this year leaves much to be desired.

Danzig 07-25-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 673647)
She missed a state earlier this year if you want to be be anal about it, let's not be too selective here, quite challenging racing state to state, especially if one travels from N.Y to N.J or Louisiana to Louisville.

and yes, it can be. a variety of surfaces is definitely more of a challenge than racing over one or two. but you know that.

CSC 07-25-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 673649)
and yes, it can be. a variety of surfaces is definitely more of a challenge than racing over one or two. but you know that.

By this logic, I commend the connections of Quality Road and Summer Bird for attempting to try pro-ride last year, and for the one that didn't. I'll leave that up to whomever wants to view reality through rose colored glasses.

Danzig 07-25-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 673654)
By this logic, I commend the connections of Quality Road and Summer Bird for attempting to try pro-ride last year, and for the one that didn't. I'll leave that up to whomever wants to view reality through rose colored glasses.

i commend them as well. they definitely could have used another good race on their resume, it's a shame it didn't work out for them. and looking thru rose colored glasses is similar imo to those who look purely thru biased ones, who won't give some their due because they're afraid it will detract from others.

Merlinsky 07-25-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 673654)
By this logic, I commend the connections of Quality Road and Summer Bird for attempting to try pro-ride last year, and for the one that didn't. I'll leave that up to whomever wants to view reality through rose colored glasses.

So what are you looking through with Zenyatta? Did someone take a giant rose colored vase and just plant it over your head? Probably restricts the oxygen. We should call somebody for you. :p (I kid. Sort of. Ish.)

CSC 07-25-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 673661)
So what are you looking through with Zenyatta? Did someone take a giant rose colored vase and just plant it over your head? Probably restricts the oxygen. We should call somebody for you. :p (I kid. Sort of. Ish.)

Sorry, I really am because it's really painful to be still talking about this; however the only time I bring it up, present tense is when someone uses some contradictory argument. As for them meeting in the future, not unless Jess enters her in the Classic and observing the way they have mapped out her campaign this year, it doesn't look likely it will ever happen. But who knows Jess is especially kooky this year, and his Schizophrenia may kick in at any time.

Danzig 07-25-2010 11:36 AM

i doubt they ever meet. altho the fans may want it, it seems the owners don't.

the_fat_man 07-25-2010 11:37 AM

It's heartwarming how the RA fans rally round their Horse of the Year after yet another meaningless win. It's almost as if each of these wins somehow erases the fact that she was a NO SHOW when it counted. Didn't make the trip. Too busy licking her wounds after LITTLE Z jacked her up in LA. Then again, not showing up is why she's still around today. I mean :

"We're not going to run," Mitchell said. "I blew her out at Hollywood Park and I brought her down here and she's body sore and stiff. If I were to blame it on anything, I'd blame it on taking on Zenyatta."

It was precisely fear of the above that caused ASSMan and Jackson to soil their pants at the thought of honoring their commitment and showing up at OP.

ha ha ha

She did, however, get a 110; or 105; or 102; or whatever the **** ---- she's STILL FASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :rolleyes:

Danzig 07-25-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 673669)
It's heartwarming how the RA fans rally round their Horse of the Year after yet another meaningless win. It's almost as if each of these wins somehow erases the fact that she was a NO SHOW when it counted. Didn't make the trip. Too busy licking her wounds after LITTLE Z jacked her up in LA. Then again, not showing up is why she's still around today. I mean :

"We're not going to run," Mitchell said. "I blew her out at Hollywood Park and I brought her down here and she's body sore and stiff. If I were to blame it on anything, I'd blame it on taking on Zenyatta."

It was precisely fear of the above that caused ASSMan and Jackson to soil their pants at the thought of honoring their commitment and showing up at OP.

ha ha ha

She did, however, get a 110; or 105; or 102; or whatever the **** ---- she's STILL FASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :rolleyes:

altho some may have enjoyed it, i doubt most horse fans did. it was a meaningless, prove nothing win. but rehashing last year and continuing ad nauseaum about oaklawn does nothing to show you're an unbiased critic of what is actually occurring. your same song, 17th verse is no more helpful than reading the few who acutally thought yesterdays race was a good showing, or an effort by the 'real' rachel. you're a real laugh riot of the paddock.

CSC 07-25-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 673668)
i doubt they ever meet. altho the fans may want it, it seems the owners don't.

Correction, one owner didn't, that we do know.

Danzig 07-25-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 673674)
Correction, one owner didn't, that we know.

no, neither wants to. not sure why the onus falls only on jackson. there have been opportunities for these horses to meet. why it's ok for the mosses to refuse to ship, but not jackson is beyond me. oh, wait. i know why. it's because those who are firmly in one camp refuse to see the situation clearly. and that goes for either camp.

Rileyoriley 07-25-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 673518)
110 Beyer

I thought you were being sarcastic. They just verified it on TVG.:zz:

Danzig 07-25-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 673685)
I thought you were being sarcastic. They just verified it on TVG.:zz:

lol

i thought it was an attempt at humor at first as well. i find that figure very hard to believe.

prudery 07-25-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 673688)
lol

i thought it was an attempt at humor at first as well. i find that figure very hard to believe.

As per DRF, someone else else found it hard to believe as well ...

Figure has been adjusted to 105 ..

pba1817 07-25-2010 03:46 PM

110 or 105 or... well just get 'em where you want over there at the ol' drf.

Scav 07-25-2010 07:11 PM

I really hope she runs in the Personal Ensign.

miraja2 07-25-2010 07:29 PM

Perhaps people could divide into the Blind Luck "camp," and the Devil May Care "camp" and argue about those two for awhile. It probably isn't worth arguing about, but at least that would be something different.

I'm utterly bored with the big two and their completely unexciting 2010 campaigns.

ateamstupid 07-25-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 673876)
I really hope she runs in the Personal Ensign.

If they commit to it, then there's no reason for Zenyatta not to come. Hell, it's 10 furlongs, which all the Zentards have repeatedly said RA couldn't last against Big Z.

10 pnt move up 07-25-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 673882)
If they commit to it, then there's no reason for Zenyatta not to come. Hell, it's 10 furlongs, which all the Zentards have repeatedly said RA couldn't last against Big Z.

If they dont like del mar than yea I could see it happening. probably a longshot but no one likes the track right now.


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