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Danzig 09-09-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I would definitely agree with your last part. While I am pretty decided I'll be voting for Obama, a lot can change. There are plenty of things about him and things he has done that I am not too happy with. It's funny, earlier today i was thinking about what I dislike about each candidate. There weren't many dislikes for McCain, but a giant one is having Palin as his VP. There also weren't many likes for him either other than his service record. Since Cannon is too Republican for me, I'd like to swap him with Morty and I think we should push forward with a Morty/GBBob ticket.


i agree with that. mccain seems more center of the road, while obama is far left, too far to the left for me. but i'm seriously looking at him now, altho i suppose one could always vote for JM and hope like hell he lives four years-no guarantee of course, and i certainly am not wishing the guy ill....unlike certain folks regarding tom brady...at any rate, i don't like palin AT ALL. she's too far to the right.

GPK 09-09-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You hit your head or something?


Why is that? You so sure I was gonnna vote McCain/Palin?

ArlJim78 09-09-2008 09:07 PM

speaking of scary, if anyone is interested in knowing what it really means to be a community organizer in Chicago.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/melanieph...lieve-in.thtml

ateamstupid 09-09-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
speaking of scary, if anyone is interested in knowing what it really means to be a community organizer in Chicago.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/melanieph...lieve-in.thtml

You can't honestly believe a word of this ridiculousness.

ArlJim78 09-09-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You can't honestly believe a word of this ridiculousness.

open your eyes. his connection to the radical left are not even debatable. he was groomed in that environment.

ArlJim78 09-09-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Jim, how many pictures of Reagan are up in your house? I'm setting the over/under at 2.

And while it's obvious we see the world different, things like teaching creationism in school and trying to convert gays to straight through religion is batshit crazy.

haha, no pictures of Reagan. but he was a great president.

for the social issues, I'm sure you're referring to Palin, but where did you get your info? she has not pushed to have creationism taught in schools.

Danzig 09-09-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Jim, how many pictures of Reagan are up in your house? I'm setting the over/under at 2.

And while it's obvious we see the world different, things like teaching creationism in school and trying to convert gays to straight through religion is batshit crazy.

yeah, i agree with that as well.

ateamstupid 09-09-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
open your eyes. his connection to the radical left are not even debatable. he was groomed in that environment.

You're right, he's a secret Muslim member of the Weather Underground who's running for president only to make the country his personal ultra-liberal petri dish. Oh and he wants to exterminate white people. How could I have been so blind.

ArlJim78 09-09-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I get it from blogs on the intranet and CNN. This is wrong?

She's a religious nut, plain and simple. No place for that being a heartbeat away from leading the country.

they're throwing everything against the wall to see what will stick. there is nothing to suggest she's a nut.

from factcheck

"Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

Cannon Shell 09-09-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I get it from blogs on the intranet and CNN. This is wrong?

She's a religious nut, plain and simple. No place for that being a heartbeat away from leading the country.

Blogs and CNN are not exactly neutral sources

As for palin, what are the chances that McCain croaks? And even if he does how exactly can a Republican President (especially one not elected) get ultra right wing programs past a democratic congress? A VP basically goes into hiding the day after the election and anyone who thinks that McCain is going to allow Palin to be his Cheney obviously doesnt understand McCain. The whole one heart beat thing is so overblown.

Cannon Shell 09-09-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You're right, he's a secret Muslim member of the Weather Underground who's running for president only to make the country his personal ultra-liberal petri dish. Oh and he wants to exterminate white people. How could I have been so blind.

You have any journalism classes this year?

pgardn 09-09-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
they're throwing everything against the wall to see what will stick. there is nothing to suggest she's a nut.

from factcheck

"Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

debate this in a Science classroom.
No one has ever prohibited this debate in public schools, ever.
You just don't debate it in a Science classroom for terribly obvious reasons.

How many frikkn times does the Supreme Court have to take this up again...

ateamstupid 09-09-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Blogs and CNN are not exactly neutral sources

As for palin, what are the chances that McCain croaks? And even if he does how exactly can a Republican President (especially one not elected) get ultra right wing programs past a democratic congress? A VP basically goes into hiding the day after the election and anyone who thinks that McCain is going to allow Palin to be his Cheney obviously doesnt understand McCain. The whole one heart beat thing is so overblown.

Right-wing programs aside, I just think she's not very smart, and would have no idea what the hell to do, hence her platform pretty much being her as a 'hockey mom'.. Hockey mom, leader of the free world.. Same thing I guess.

Obama may lack 'executive experience', but at least he's obviously a bright guy and has laid out plans for when he takes office.

ArlJim78 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You're right, he's a secret Muslim member of the Weather Underground who's running for president only to make the country his personal ultra-liberal petri dish. Oh and he wants to exterminate white people. How could I have been so blind.

you might want to occaisonally take issues a little more seriously.

20 years ago, anyone with those connections would have been laughed off the stage, early on in the primary and had no chance at a major party nomination.

Danzig 09-09-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Blogs and CNN are not exactly neutral sources

As for palin, what are the chances that McCain croaks? And even if he does how exactly can a Republican President (especially one not elected) get ultra right wing programs past a democratic congress? A VP basically goes into hiding the day after the election and anyone who thinks that McCain is going to allow Palin to be his Cheney obviously doesnt understand McCain. The whole one heart beat thing is so overblown.

that's something i come back to btw. the dem congress vs a rep president. but then i see palin..and like i said before, certainly mccain isn't necessarily going to gasp his last while in office.
so, i'm still undecided--had he not chosen palin i probably wouldn't be, i admit that. i just think mccain is more centered than obama, and that appeals to me.
as you say, the vp doesn't matter usually.
and many of these issues we keep bringing up, the president actually has nothing to do with. it's the school boards who decide curriculum. yeah, palin is right wing, but she can't legislate we all learn creationism in science class. as for the supreme court, i don't see a republican getting an ultra right judge in there, he/she won't get approved by congress.
it didn't seem to work well for us with a rep president and a rep congress. would dems in charge of both work any better? i always thought one of each worked better.

still time tho to decide.


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