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cmorioles 01-07-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 959846)
one interesting stat they gave out on the game they just lost the other night was that carmelo is 1 for his last 18 on possible game winning shots

The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.

cmorioles 01-07-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 959922)
So they are waiving Bynum at 5PM today to clear his cap money too. lol..draft pick scenarios too confusing for me:)

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...ulls-luol-deng

And of course, Bynum will almost assuredly end up with the Heat.

Cannon Shell 01-07-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 959919)
So Deng to Cavs for Bynum, picks and to move a guy they couldn't afford to pay anyways.

Thoughts?

Obviously they werent planning on resigning Deng after the season and decided to get cap relief and a few extra picks as opposed to nothing. Cant argue with that strategy especially if it weakens their team short term (this year) which may enhance their position in a really strong draft. Ironically this deal may ensure that Cleveland gets past them in the standings and potentially keeps them out of the playoffs and into the lottery.
It can be tricky trading guys like Deng who are heading into unrestricted free agency because essentially they can turn into rentals and unlike other sports there is no compensation for their loss other than salary cap space.

Cannon Shell 01-07-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 959921)
How many picks do they have in the upcoming draft? It has to be a bunch at this point.

They have their own pick which may now become a lottery selection if they miss the playoffs. They have Sacramento's 1st pick this year though it is protected (1-10 through 2017) and unlikely to be used this year. If Sacremento can acquire a good player through the draft and get their act together the next few years this will wind up being a pretty good pick for Chicago or a trade asset.

They have Charlotte's pick this year which they may wind up keeping as it is top 10 protected but Charlotte is currently the 7 seed in the East and Chicago tanking will help them stay out of the lottery and into 1st round fodder.

So they could easily wind up with 2 lottery selections (though with a real longshot to get into the top 3) this year and they most likely have European star Mirotic coming next year.

Cannon Shell 01-07-2014 01:34 PM

Mirotic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af3jTTp76bI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjaHc9Vp9wU

RockHardTen1985 01-07-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 959924)
The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.


Convenient. But when it was LeBron it was a huge deal?

RockHardTen1985 01-07-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 959909)
Do you drink?

16 and 9 is a non factor?

Duvalier 01-07-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 959924)
The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.

You need these to hit those kind of shots


RockHardTen1985 01-07-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 959925)
And of course, Bynum will almost assuredly end up with the Heat.

And why not? Its a win win for everyone involved, no risk at all if Miami brings him in. Between him and Oden if they can get 25min a game they are unbeatable.

RockHardTen1985 01-07-2014 10:05 PM

Golden St 10 wins in a row.
Great team, tough out come playoff time.

Duvalier 01-08-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 959916)
I don't know. They handled the situation in a strange manner with the self imposed deadline. You'd figure only teams with a contending chance would be willing to take on that salary for next year and most of those are in the West. Does Houston want to help another contender in the West? He would be a great pickup for Portland but I dont how to make that deal work and would Houston be willing?

Then again after the recent stretch of games, maybe Olshey better find a way to make it work. The defense and bench are becoming a trainwreck.

cmorioles 01-08-2014 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 959961)
Convenient. But when it was LeBron it was a huge deal?

Everything with Lebron is a big deal in the media.

JJP 01-08-2014 09:17 AM

Cleveland now 2 1/2 games out of the last playoff spot. Deng makes them better on both sides of the ball. Laughable how bad the East is. As big of a dichotemy as I've ever seen, between East and West.

Duvalier 01-09-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 958116)
Bledsoe better watch out for a major injury. Any minute now.


Out indefinitely...will undergo knee surgery

http://nba.si.com/2014/01/09/eric-bl...-phoenix-suns/

RockHardTen1985 01-09-2014 09:12 PM

Surprisingly great game right now between Knicks and Heat. As I type Jesus Shuttlesworth goes for a 4 point play.

ateamstupid 01-09-2014 10:44 PM

NYC is back. Nets and Knicks 8-1 combined in 2014 with wins over Oklahoma City, Golden State, San Antonio and Miami.

Ocala Mike 01-10-2014 11:55 AM

2013-2014
 
Looks like that Christmas Day national tv ass-kicking that both teams suffered marked the bottom. Nowhere to go but up now. I think it's good for the NBA brand to have decent teams in NYC.

Any chance Brooklyn can beat the Heat tonight?

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 960364)
Looks like that Christmas Day national tv ass-kicking that both teams suffered marked the bottom. Nowhere to go but up now. I think it's good for the NBA brand to have decent teams in NYC.

Any chance Brooklyn can beat the Heat tonight?

Miami does not lose 2 in a row that often, but BK is playing better and can keep it close.
The Knicks are 4-1 in there last 5 vs Miami.

ateamstupid 01-10-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 960364)
Looks like that Christmas Day national tv ass-kicking that both teams suffered marked the bottom. Nowhere to go but up now. I think it's good for the NBA brand to have decent teams in NYC.

Any chance Brooklyn can beat the Heat tonight?

I agree with RHT. I'd feel better if the Heat had won last night. But a close loss is cool with me if we can win in Toronto tomorrow. 5-1 in 2014 going into the London trip would've sounded ludicrous after the NYE loss to San Antonio.

ateamstupid 01-10-2014 06:01 PM

No Wade tonight makes the task slightly easier.

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 960417)
No Wade tonight makes the task slightly easier.

Joe Johnson is on fire early. Really good first 8 minutes of basketball.
As Im typing this he just abused Lebron.

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 07:36 PM

Holy ****. Great great 1st quarter.
Joe Johnson has 22
Lebron has 16

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 09:17 PM

Great game... Getting really physical. Birdman almost dropped the big elbow on KG.

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 09:27 PM

Win or lose if BK plays like this every night they will be the 3 seed come playoff time.

RockHardTen1985 01-10-2014 10:08 PM

Shaun Livingston going beast mode. Still a shame all the injuries he has had.

knickslions2 01-13-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 959891)
I know youre only half serious. Any player would trade 4 NCAA Championships for 1 NBA title. Melo was barley the best player on that Cuse team.
Warrick was a beast and Mcnamera made a ton of big shots and was 100% the leader of the team.
Edelin was OK and so was my dude Craig Forth.
Warrick averaged 15 and 9 BTW.

Thanks for helping me Knicks get back on track!!


Carmelo Anthony has been named the Eastern Conference Player of the Week for games played between Jan. 6 to Jan. 12, the NBA announced Monday.

Anthony led the New York Knicks to a 3-0 record last week. He ranked second in the conference in scoring (27.0 ppg) and steals (2.33 spg), and third in minutes (39.2 mpg).

The highlight of Anthony's week came Thursday, when he connected on 12 of 24 field goal attempts en route to 29 points in a win over the Miami Heat. He added eight rebounds and five assists in the Knicks' 102-92 upset win.

RockHardTen1985 01-13-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 960804)
Thanks for helping me Knicks get back on track!!


Carmelo Anthony has been named the Eastern Conference Player of the Week for games played between Jan. 6 to Jan. 12, the NBA announced Monday.

Anthony led the New York Knicks to a 3-0 record last week. He ranked second in the conference in scoring (27.0 ppg) and steals (2.33 spg), and third in minutes (39.2 mpg).

The highlight of Anthony's week came Thursday, when he connected on 12 of 24 field goal attempts en route to 29 points in a win over the Miami Heat. He added eight rebounds and five assists in the Knicks' 102-92 upset win.

lol And???
This is what he does. He will never win anything in this league. He is a selfish scorer. Nothing wrong with that I guess. He is another Barkley or Ewing, well a poor mans Barkley or Ewing.

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960816)
lol And???
This is what he does. He will never win anything in this league. He is a selfish scorer. Nothing wrong with that I guess. He is another Barkley or Ewing, well a poor mans Barkley or Ewing.

1st ballot hall of famer?

29-16-4 last night.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 960830)
1st ballot hall of famer?

29-16-4 last night.

He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him. I dont get that kill a team, selfish vibe from Big Game James though.
He will never win anything though. I dont care if he gets hooked w/ Paul, Love, Rondo. His only hope would be somehow playing w/ Lebron. And Lebron would never EVER PLAY W/ MELO.

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960834)
He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him. I dont get that kill a team, selfish vibe from Big Game James though.
He will never win anything though. I dont care if he gets hooked w/ Paul, Love, Rondo. His only hope would be somehow playing w/ Lebron. And Lebron would never EVER PLAY W/ MELO.

The guy played 1 year of college basketball and won the Nat'l championship and outstanding player of the tourney.

His teams have never missed the playoffs in his entire NBA career.

2 gold medals.

Seems like a lot of winning?

Harden is a shorter version of Anthony that plays even less defense. Because he was drafted by a team with a great GM and traded to a team with a very good GM doesnt make him a better player or a "winner". It just makes him fortunate.

Is Chris Paul not a "winner" because his resume doesnt measure up to Carmello's?

Duvalier 01-14-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960834)
He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him.

So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 960845)
So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

What's not to love?
The guy was tough, played good D, rebounded OK and was as clutch as they come. Notable clutch shots for this dude range out over 10 years. Started in 95 for Houston in Western Conference finals at San Antonio. Ending in 2005 for the Spurs in game 5 of the finals against Detroit. With a ton of great moments in between.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 960836)
The guy played 1 year of college basketball and won the Nat'l championship and outstanding player of the tourney.

His teams have never missed the playoffs in his entire NBA career.

2 gold medals.

Seems like a lot of winning?

Harden is a shorter version of Anthony that plays even less defense. Because he was drafted by a team with a great GM and traded to a team with a very good GM doesnt make him a better player or a "winner". It just makes him fortunate.

Is Chris Paul not a "winner" because his resume doesnt measure up to Carmello's?


Chris Paul is more of a leader, but he also has won nothing yet.
He's also not a team wrecker.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 960845)
So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

Horry and Harden would have been great together.
Big shot Bob and Big game James together would have been special.

Duvalier 01-14-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960846)
What's not to love?
The guy was tough, played good D, rebounded OK and was as clutch as they come. Notable clutch shots for this dude range out over 10 years. Started in 95 for Houston in Western Conference finals at San Antonio. Ending in 2005 for the Spurs in game 5 of the finals against Detroit. With a ton of great moments in between.

Horry was as clutch as they come, but because he was on seven NBA championship teams, it doesn't make him better than guys who never got a ring. You seem to think only guys who won rings are worth anything...it's not that simple. How would you compare Horry to Barkley and Ewing?

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960848)
Chris Paul is more of a leader, but he also has won nothing yet.
He's also not a team wrecker.

So this means that Paul is not a winner because he was drafted by New Orleans and was traded to the Clippers?

What team did Anthony wreck? Can you wreck a team into the playoffs?

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960849)
Horry and Harden would have been great together.
Big shot Bob and Big game James together would have been special.

Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 08:57 AM

Big Shot Bob averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds a game for his career.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 960867)
Big Shot Bob averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds a game for his career.

Bash a man with 7 rings but defend Melo? I respect you way to much to have such a bad opinion on this. You're a fan of Melo so your biased. I get it, I was a fan until I saw the light.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 960865)
Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

I didnt make up the nickname.


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