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hoovesupsideyourhead 10-04-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 703072)

the cheers move to tears on nov 6 ?

10 pnt move up 10-04-2010 02:07 PM

Just wow....

Beyer today

Zenyatta now has to prove that she can win at the highest level of the sport.

Smooth Operator 10-04-2010 09:24 PM

Going from synthetic to dirt (see Zardana, et al)

Had perfect prep race after being on shelf for two months

Fresh, fit, and moving from less than ideal distance (8.5f) to ideal distance (10f)

Trained by a guy who owns big score at CD.



You guys do realize that Z could be sitting on a big one here … right?

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703064)
If someone would've told me five or ten years ago that someday a 6-year-old mare will be the morning line favorite in the BCC … I would've called them a clueless moron.

This is just sick. :cool:

If someone 5 or 10 years ago told me that people would be rating a mare that is all out to beat creampuffs on a fake dirt track in CA in the same class as Seattle Slew and Citation, I would have held an intervention for them.

Dahoss 10-04-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703384)
Going from synthetic to dirt (see Zardana, et al)

Had perfect prep race after being on shelf for two months

Fresh, fit, and moving from less than ideal distance (8.5f) to ideal distance (10f)

Trained by a guy who owns big score at CD.



You guys do realize that Z could be sitting on a big one here … right?

Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

JerseyJ 10-04-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703384)
Going from synthetic to dirt (see Zardana, et al)

Had perfect prep race after being on shelf for two months

Fresh, fit, and moving from less than ideal distance (8.5f) to ideal distance (10f)

Trained by a guy who owns big score at CD.



You guys do realize that Z could be sitting on a big one here … right?

That "big one" is a career top of a 104 on dirt against a shaky field where the other horse in the race who wasn't much to begin with ran like crap anyway. Gonna take a whole lot better than a 104 to beat Blame, Quality Road, etc.

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 703207)
Just wow....

Beyer today

Zenyatta now has to prove that she can win at the highest level of the sport.

She hasn't exactly been facing the highest level of the sport lately. And this is a watered down version of the highest level.

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703384)
Going from synthetic to dirt (see Zardana, et al)

Had perfect prep race after being on shelf for two months

Fresh, fit, and moving from less than ideal distance (8.5f) to ideal distance (10f)

Trained by a guy who owns big score at CD.



You guys do realize that Z could be sitting on a big one here … right?

She might have been sitting on a big one all year had they taken the training wheels off.

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 703390)
That "big one" is a career top of a 104 on dirt against a shaky field where the other horse in the race who wasn't much to begin with ran like crap anyway. Gonna take a whole lot better than a 104 to beat Blame, Quality Road, etc.

The irony is that Blame and Quality Road are hardly good horses in a historical sense. Neither would currently break into the top 100.

Smooth Operator 10-04-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 703387)
Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32714


Post #15

Dahoss 10-04-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703405)

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...066#post703066

Post #49

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 703402)
The irony is that Blame and Quality Road are hardly good horses in a historical sense. Neither would currently break into the top 100.

It's not ironic....it's legit and sad.

Smooth Operator 10-04-2010 09:45 PM

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Smooth Operator 10-04-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 703410)

Pretty good post … you have a problem with it?

JerseyJ 10-04-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703423)
Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

philcski 10-04-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 703426)
Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

Dahoss 10-04-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703425)
Pretty good post … you have a problem with it?

No, but your hedging is pretty amusing. When she's off the board in the Classic your excuse is all ready.

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 703423)
Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Right below Washington

Cannon Shell 10-04-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 703455)
Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

Phil....TULANE???

Honu 10-04-2010 10:58 PM

I wonder why no one ships in for a couple of hundrend g's to beat the big mare? Can it just be that they are so against synthetics that they wouldnt dare come race on principle alone. Is it the owners who dont want to try it or the trainers? Her races on dirt show alot more turn of foot than her races on synthetic of course this just my opinon but I just dont get why a 5k plane ride and some hotel rooms for help doesnt attract more people to come and try and beat her. Its gotta be the synthetic principle, call b ullshit but dont show up to prove it.


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