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MaTH716 01-20-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone

I disagree. He would have still got the extention after the Super Bowl. Granted it wouldn't have been pretty around here. And he would have been on the hot seat going into next season. But to fire him in a season where they started 11-1, with losing their 2 best pass rushers before the season and then the whole Plax situation is a bit unfair. The Mara's are usually a pretty classy/loyal group and wouldn't have dumped Coughlin just to bring in Spags (if that's what you were thinking) or anyone else.

MaTH716 01-20-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone , now giants and their fans are stuck with him for 3 more yrs

he was horrible against philly now twice in the playoffs and horrible against carolina in the playoffs

Eli Manning has yet to win a playoff game at home - he is 0-2 , both years they had better teams than the teams they lost too

Manning has looked horrible in the meadowlands in Jan , not a lot of qb's do well there in the swirling winds and now he is going to get 100mm plus

I'm not saying that you are that far off base, but winning cures everything. You can come up with whatever scenario you want, but you can never take away the 2007-08 championship.

Eli hasn't been good at home, all you can do is hope he gets better. The reciever situation will be addressed and more importantly the line stays intact. I am expecting big things again from them next year.

Smooth Operator 01-20-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate. :rolleyes:

Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
OMG, he's getting delusional. Quick someone has to get over to his house and either put on the Phillies championship DVD or the Fashion channel ASAP!


best DVD evah!

declansharbor 01-20-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

gales0678 01-20-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I disagree. He would have still got the extention after the Super Bowl. Granted it wouldn't have been pretty around here. And he would have been on the hot seat going into next season. But to fire him in a season where they started 11-1, with losing their 2 best pass rushers before the season and then the whole Plax situation is a bit unfair. The Mara's are usually a pretty classy/loyal group and wouldn't have dumped Coughlin just to bring in Spags (if that's what you were thinking) or anyone else.

Wellington Mara was - not sure of the new breed , and don't forget the younger Tischs have a say now as well they won't be patient , if tom doesn't win a playoff game next year , they will buy him out IMO

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-20-2009 03:03 PM

why isnt the defensive q for the eagles not getting any play in the coaching openings..

declansharbor 01-20-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
why isnt the defensive q for the eagles not getting any play in the coaching openings..

Too old.

I don't think he wants (or can handle) the interaction with the WHOLE team. He's content with the situation he's in. I thnk he has spurned offers before in teh past.

Smooth Operator 01-22-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

declansharbor 01-22-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

Antitrust32 01-22-2009 10:56 AM

Andy actually does have a ring.. just not with Philly. He better get one there :mad:

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

90% to Dungy/McKay
10% to Chucky/Allen

Crown@club 01-22-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

Dungy couldn't get that team past the first round.

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Dungy couldn't get that team past the first round.

Which team? He had the Bucs in the NFC Championship and came within a whisker of derailing the Greatest Show on Turf in their heyday.

Crown@club 01-22-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Which team? He had the Bucs in the NFC Championship and came within a whisker of derailing the Greatest Show on Turf in their heyday.

Dungy had back-to-back 1st round losses in 2000 and 2001. He was fired because the offense showed decline.

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Dungy had back-to-back 1st round losses in 2000 and 2001. He was fired because the offense showed decline.

There was never any offensive incline. So how could it have been in decline?

GBBob 01-30-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Too old.

I don't think he wants (or can handle) the interaction with the WHOLE team. He's content with the situation he's in. I thnk he has spurned offers before in teh past.

Sadly, this may play a part in his role not to pursue a Head Coaching job as well..Good Luck..

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