Since I now have the sheet in front of me. Anthem and Consumer's Life have already quoted rates, but those rates are not set, and may go up after sign-up.

Gotta love insurance companies. You sign a contract with them, but the contract says that here's the agreement - but they have outs at their discretion :tro:

Are the rates reasonable?

On the surface (11% increase) with what I've seen the past 5 years, its tolerable.

Deductibles are getting up there though.

With what I see with Anthem (we were with them in 2007 before switching), rates already increased on one employee, and they already have a higher deductibles. The employee has to worry about his non-formulary co-pays. They are currently at $40, but with other policies offered they could be as high as $80. Expensive for his oldest on his needed monthly medicine.

Easy solution: Don't sign a contract and look for something better.

Well, at least with kids under 18, the insurance companies can no longer do lifetime caps or kick kids off completely for pre-existings. Although it doesn't mean they won't manipulate the heck out of things, until the 2014 80% reinvestment rule (must spend on policy holders) for the company kicks in.

We are a crazy country. I completely fail to understand why we can't go to a public option, why people are against that?

Another 9.7% increase........:rolleyes:

but look at all the 'free' stuff you're getting! isn't it wonderful??

OMFG I brought up this thread and say Nascar and nearly had a stroke.

I can't wait to get a doctor's prescription just for cold medicine.

Ok. That hasn't passed yet.

lol

yeah, sometimes you go 'whoa' and then look at the post date/time...that brings a sigh of relief!

I purchased some pseudoephedrine a month ago. Took 20 minutes and tons of paperwork. Ridiculous. I asked the pharmacist if it would be easier if I just wrote an Rx for it, considering the DEA has already given me a license that allows me to purchase morphine, codeine, fentanyl, etc.

He wants the law about Rx to pass, it makes it tons easier on him, turns it into just filling an Rx. Big pharmacist lobby in favor of this. Ridiculously difficult for consumers, however.

The above is fighting this, in the last year before all the ACA provisions kick in:

And there are bills that will remove compensation completely for insurance agents.

Once again a move to kill the middle class with the illusion of health care for all.


Maybe they can draw unemployment, we'll go through a downturn, then when they run out of unemployment benefits magically the unemployment numbers will plummet and they'll lie and say jobs were added.

America - the land of the helpless p.ussyfarts who do what they're told.

yes, there are. because we all know how evil insurance agents are. :rolleyes: most people don't know a whole lot about insurance, and count on advice from a pro. where will they turn when the pros aren't available? what if an important medicare date is missed? then they get denied coverage....throw themselves on the mercy of the fed. govt. yeah, that'll go well.

Well that's easy. You'll go online and choose from an exchange. These health insurance plans are easy to figure out. Insurance agents were the problem. Now most of the fraud will subside and there will be people emitting rainbows from their a-holes and all will be well.

yeah, but they start getting difficult when people are dealing with having to do certain things at certain times...if you don't fill out the right stuff at the right time, you could end up messing up your medicare. then there's the drug plans...do you want part a and b? or just a? what about supplement plans?

cause we all know that the agents are the issue with rising health costs!


and i know you're being facetious...it's just aggravating how they're trying to 'fix' things.

What bills are you talking about?

Health plans are simplified, the same basic benefits required of all basic tier plans across the country, no refusal for pre-existing conditions, multiple equal plans to compare pricing on the exchanges, Medicare donut holes closed. Doesn't seem more confusing.

I have family members in insurance (corporate and union healthcare & bennie plans) who did well in 2011, and anticipate business to continue to boom this year, as more companies will be able to afford and provide insurance.

Founding fathers liked taxed government health care.

Nothing has changed since then. Of course they loved the idea that's why it is written into the Constitution.

And we're back to the first post in this thread:

"Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798"

"Newsflash: Founders favored "government run health care""