Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683991)

Here ya go, Dell. Took about 2 seconds. I count 15 mosques. Wow! That's sorta equal to the 15 "churches" of various denominations I got on another search that took about 2 seconds.

Freedom of religion. It's a great thing about America.

http://indyposted.com/37871/mosque-n...isting-mosque/

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683994)

especially when you hit what is a supposed mosque and get nothing.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683995)

Psst ... hey, Village Idiot. The story is not a clickable link. Try going to the original article (linked in the story). Or you can use Mapquest. On the internets.

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683996)

like i said apartments w/carpet whether one of the 911 martyrs lived there or not is meaningless IMO.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683997)

That's not what is listed.



Sure, Dell. Now go take your medicine.

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 684000)

just take a walk and see where you find the first cup cake for sale.

NYC WTC 2 blocks max.

Or go walk and get a beer.

NYC WTC 1 block max.

Compare that to where you are and get back to us.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683962)

Well, no, I don't "need" to answer anything. I think you "need" to educate yourself on this subject. If you had paid attention to any of the background in the news on this story at all, over the past months, you'd know that there are multiple mosques in that neighborhood, always have been, just as there are multiple churches in it. The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood.



I think the President was right to remind the haters that religious persecution of their fellow Americans is against the Constitution, and not what we stand for in America. That he had to do that is appalling and scary for this country.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 684015)

If you listen to the President's comments from Saturday, it doesn't sound like he thinks it's a very good idea to put a mosque there. This is from the Wall Street Journal:

On Saturday, the president said, "I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque" near Ground Zero, he told reporters during a visit to the Gulf Coast. "I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...toWhatsNewsTop

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 683923)

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ATE/100809871#

in a related story, the museum of irony opened a new exhibit on the museum of tolerance.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 683793)

I don't think it's wrong to expect them to say they don't believe in the practices in the Koran that are against American Law. Don't think it's a page from their book to want them to say they respect our laws. I think people would be much more in favor of this location, if they would just do that. They won't, cuz they would be coming out against fellow Moslems. They want their cake, n' eat it too. We are guilty of letting them get away with it.

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683848)

i think they can try to justify it however they wish. i think they are using religion as a way to garner support from other believers in that faith. i don't care why they did it honestly. anyone engaging in criminal behavior should be treated accordingly. anyone who aids them should be as well. however, having been raised as catholic, i'd hate for someone to lump me in with child molesting priests or the church who allowed it.
what we need to be is very careful that we don't change our beliefs, our freedoms, because of the actions of a few rotten to the core people.


john adams was a lawyer who was asked to handle a very tricky case-this was pre-declaration of independance. he was asked to be council for the accused who was charged with instigating the boston massacre. now, just think about how unpopular that british soldier was, and how much grief adams knew he'd get if he took the case. hell, his own cousin samuel was the leader of the sons of liberty. but he knew that the rule of law had to prevail, and he took that case. and he won, the man was found not guilty. i'd rather we all follow his lead in this case. don't you think that's what should happen? are our laws, the very foundation of this country, to be ignored in this case, because the group concerned is unpopular, a minority group? i hope not. and how much does that piece of paper really mean if we aren't able to follow it when it is tough to follow? the right way isn't always the easy way. would it be easy for me to say, yes, ban them. don't build it! absolutely. but it would be wrong. nazis, kkk marches, i detest them. but they are allowed for a reason. what do we say when they occur? ignore it, don't give them the benefit of seeing you upset. it's what they live for. we have to be gender neutral, color blind, we must be the same when it comes to religion. we must be able to differentiate between a criminal, and a person. sharing this religion is not criminal. your actions make you so. unless someone breaks a law, they should be left in peace. it's what i'd want, it's what you'd want.

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683917)

and say prayers while they're dealing?

Knock knock reality calling!!!!

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683922)

No, Dell, I did not do what I accused Chuck of doing. I said Chuck was being disingenuous (and yes, he was). Lori is just a yapping internet troll.

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 684025)

this is EXACTLY what i mean when i say it has nothing to do with religion:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38733523...deastn_africa/


they are terrorists first, last and always. killing fellow muslims is a sure sign that they are not motivated by religion. they are motivated by hate. we weren't attacked here because of a differing religion, but because they hate us. not because many here are christians, but because we're americans, because of what we stand for. after all, we have every religion known to man being practiced in this country.