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GPK 02-26-2008 03:12 PM

Signs and symptoms


Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness


Now I find out im Narcissistic!?!?! f*cking wonderful....hope there are meetings for that kinda illness..

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
by the time you see them at 2 they have undergone more changes...both natural and unnatural than you can imagine.

for example: a foal born so crooked he could hardly walk, and was by far the ungliest thing I have ever seen....had some surgical intervention, and grew up...and looked good enough that he became Cecil Seaman's (look him up if you don't know who he is and want to know his theories) pick of the sale....that horse has done exactly zero on the track.

and no I'm not a vet, it's not a profession I ever wanted to enter.

Was it at a yearling or a two year old sale that Cecil Seaman said that about?

Usually, if the horse moves nice, has a good workout, has clean x-rays, good conformation, walks sound on the day after the preview, isn't swollen or puffy the day after the preview, and doesn't have any abnormalities after feeling on their legs then the horse will usually make it to the races.

I've seen plenty of horses in my line of work change dramatically. We had a horse by Romantico that had awfully crooked legs as a foal, and they straightened out pretty nicely as he grew up without surgical intervention. Of course, he is still not nearly as straight as we would like him to be.

Cecil Seaman is good. I wish that I knew this HIP # that you were referring to because curiosity has me now.

The key is to go and view the horses after the day after the horse's have their two year old previews. I don't know why more trainers don't do this. I just remember seeing Todd Pletcher, Ron Ellis, Eion Harty, and a few more at Barrett's March Sale last year pulling out horses to view the day after the previews. If you don't do this, the consigners can hide puffy ankles or soundness issues easily by the time the horses enter the sales ring. Even less trainers actually feel on the horses legs the day after the previews, and you can nix some horses pretty quickly because you can feel things that you can't necessarily see that are abnormal but won't show up in the x-rays.

I would be curious to see what one of the trainers that feels on the horses legs and views the horses the day after the previews thought about the horse that you are referring to for that reason because I don't know if Cecil Seaman or his people do that.

Thanks for the story though. I will read up on Cecil Seaman now, and I had no idea who he was.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Signs and symptoms


f*cking wonderful....hope there are meetings for that kinda illness..

I guess I will be joining you at the meetings...

paisjpq 02-26-2008 03:26 PM

he's a joke to most...but also an "expert" who got fooled, because he was only looking at the picture in front of him and didn't consider how it got that way.

SentToStud 02-26-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I guess I will be joining you at the meetings...

I'll be there too.

After reading the thread about the size of your boyfriend Wong's wang, I was somehow able to go on. This thread, however, put me over the edge.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
YES... and you are making yourself look like even MORE of an phony by saying that. Cross firing ISNT EVEN POSSIBLE WHEN IN A FULL STRAIGHTLINE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They cross-fire while running in a straight line.

Cross-firing in horse racing terms, not show horse terms, is when a horse is on one lead in the front and a different lead in the rear while galloping.

In the Green Monkey's case, he was on his right lead up front and on his left lead behind.

In show horse terms, he call it cross-cantering.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I'll be there too.

After reading the thread about the size of your boyfriend Wong's wang, I was somehow able to go on. This thread, however, put me over the edge.

I wasn't talking about my boyfriend in that thread:p haha

Wait it would have been better if I would have said, who says I was talking about my boyfriend...

GPK 02-26-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I'll be there too.

After reading the thread about the size of your boyfriend Wong's wang, I was somehow able to go on. This thread, however, put me over the edge.


Bruce...a wise man once told me "Kevin, your mind is in a terrible neighborhood. NEVER go there alone." After reading this thread, im happy to report I'm not the only one with that kinda mind...:D

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
he's a joke to most...but also an "expert" who got fooled, because he was only looking at the picture in front of him and didn't consider how it got that way.

Oh, well if he's a joke to most then his opinion doesn't really matter. I just saw that he had picked out 96 GI winners, so I was basing that statement on that. I don't know anything about him.

Payson Dave 02-26-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Bruce...a wise man once told me "Kevin, your mind is in a terrible neighborhood. NEVER go there alone." After reading this thread, im happy to report I'm not the only one with that kinda mind...:D

You had to have known that before.....i shirely hope anyway

GPK 02-26-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
You had to have known that before.....i shirely hope anyway


reconfirmation can be a wonderful thing.....




































shirley you agree.

Payson Dave 02-26-2008 03:37 PM

true true

The Bid 02-26-2008 03:38 PM

Has DT Stables offered KRIM a contract to buy babies yet?

SniperSB23 02-26-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Has DT Stables offered KRIM a contract to buy babies yet?

We tried but were outbid for her services by Shiekh Mo.

SentToStud 02-26-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Has DT Stables offered KRIM a contract to buy babies yet?

Yes, but it's contingent on her being able to recall the names of the family chauffer and chambermaid when she was a kid.

GPK 02-26-2008 03:41 PM

Pais....I probably speak for all here....can we PLEEEEEEEEEASE let Morty in this thread??:D

The Bid 02-26-2008 03:42 PM

You would think a couple of these major syndicates would be looking to put her under contract for the select sale, at the very least the OBS March. Lotta good horses come out of that sale at affordable prices With that eye there is no telling what could end up in their respective barns.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Has DT Stables offered KRIM a contract to buy babies yet?

Do you buy two year olds? I thought that you know about them from another thread...

Heard you say a colt was better than average or something...

paisjpq 02-26-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Anyone know what was wrong with this one? Went for 100K (if not RNA).


something must have gone wrong with him....he was a 230K yearling in saratoga.
Given the sire I can't say I am surprised.

philcski 02-26-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
They cross-fire while running in a straight line.

Cross-firing in horse racing terms, not show horse terms, is when a horse is on one lead in the front and a different lead in the rear while galloping.

In the Green Monkey's case, he was on his right lead up front and on his left lead behind.

In show horse terms, he call it cross-cantering.

here is the video, and you are wrong. there's nowhere he's offstride. it's close to physically impossible to work that fast unless the stride was perfect.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs...es-in-red.html

the horse was a bum. just like a lot of them at 2YO in training sales.


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