That is exactly right. That's what I've been saying all along, that certain subsets of the group follow that type of Sharia law. I think that is the part of the religion that concerns people.

Nobody said that all muslims are bad. Nobody said that all muslims are alike. Nobody said to hate all muslims. You are the only one that stereotypes people and thinks that anyone that has concerns about some aspects of Islam is a racist and bigot. You accuse others of being intollerant. I think your view ( that anyone that is concerned or criticizes aspects of Islam is a bigot) is as intollerant as anyone's view. The truth of the matter is I don't think that is your true view. It's just an easy way out for you. Instead of having to come up with legitimate arguments to defend your point of view, it's easier for you to call people names like "bigot", "racist", "hateful", etc.

In other words, since you can't come up with a defense for Sharia law, if someone asks you about it, you will usually just accuse that person of being hateful. That is a very immature and juvenille way of debating.

At least you are finally owning up to the behavior of that sect of Islam. I have no problem if you want to discuss the reasons why some people are attracted to that sect. That is a legitimate discussion. At least you are beginning to discuss the issue like a grown-up instead of denying that Islam even has a violent sect to it.

I'm a hateful person? Ok, whatever you say Bob.

You like to throw the questions out there, and you do more fearing mongering
than any 5 conservatives on this board! Answer the question, or did you not know of these things?

You're kidding,right?!

It's an absurd, simplistic question whose point is to scream, "Muslims!" Do you think age or poverty or lack of jobs has anything to do with what has been going on in France for the past year? Do you not know of anything about this yourself?

What a bunch of crap. Yeah. Fear of the bigoted and stupid.

That's never been the way it's been presented here, and you know it full well. Islam has been presented as Muslims are inherently violent, all of them (even the "tame" ones, and yes I know Scuds wrote that and not you), and this bastardized, half-azzed "understanding of Islam" that's been presented on this board somehow "proves it", and it's only a matter of time until all of Islam rises up.

Nobody is discussing Al Quaeda here. Nobody has started out the multiple conversations about Muslims (same ones over the past couple of years) with, "Oh, let's examine how an evil small terrorist subsect is subverting an entire religion". They are discussing "Muslims". The threat of an entire religion against this country. That is the starting point, not a conclusion drawn by any intelligent examination.

Absurd. Bigoted. Racist. Fear-mongering. Nonsensical.

Nonsense. You are obviously not paying very close attention.

Well...the question is apparently over your ability to understand because you are deciding not to answer. No one is this country forms mobs of people bent on destroying people and property like those in Europe. No one is acting out in this country because of poverty,or loss of jobs.

Who do you like in the Travers?

Haven't looked at it yet

Hard to believe.

Dont play much at all anymore, but thanks for asking.

This is probably going to be really hard for you to understand: I think age, poverty and lack of jobs has alot to do with what has been going on in France the some time now. You?

Your ignorance of current and recent American history is appalling.

I'm off spending the next days looking at yearlings. Hope you guys enjoy Beck and Palin's, "Retaking of the civil rights movement" this weekend.

I hope you enjoy the constant sound of the ocean in your head.

its a fact that 10% of the muslim word leans towards extremest views and support terror operations like Al Queda, Taliban, Hamas, etc. Do they all want to become suicide bombers? probably not? do they like when "infidels" die? yes.

but 10% of one billion is not a small number no matter how you look at it.

and to the bolded part... where did that come from when I specifically mentioned 10%?

oh please :zz:

typical flaming liberal shrieking.....it's all societys' fault

:tro::tro::tro:

its funny that no matter how many times you say 10%, or a small percentage.. its taken as 100%.

what part of 10% is so difficult for people to understand?

wow.. so you just admitted you have no clue how to read?


that makes a lot of sense now

I really should leave poor illiterate Riot alone.

Aren't you the one who has been going on for pages now about Riot misrepresenting other people's posts?

Being right about something you "hate on" doesn't translate to calling someone a "hateful person."

quiet!! , baby....does your pus.sy really have teeth??

^^^wishes pud had teeth

!!


^^^^ How does he know it doesn't?

i did some more googling this morning before i left for work. apparently the wahabi sect is the ultra-whacky branch of islam; not the sunni or shiite. its founder said no changes are acceptable, since the third century is what i remember it said...yeah, they flow with modern times. :rolleyes: anyway, does the sect make the terrorist, or is the terrorist attracted to an ultra-conservative view? i think it's the latter-whacko people finding a whacko viewpoint to justify their horrible behavior.

i'm talking about the amount of actual terrorists willing to commit a crime, not those who support them..no telling how big that second number might be. people might laugh when someone leads a high speed chase, doesn't mean they want to engage in one as well. how many bombs would be going off worldwide daily if 10% of the muslim world was engaging in actual crime? a lot i'd imagine.

387 posts, and the first one was right. why is this even news?

:zz: Geeshus cripes. No, Timmi, it has NOTHING AT ALL to do with "society's fault" Not having money, not having food, having no future makes people do violent, terrible things. And I am NOT saying that not having food, money, a future is in any remote way "society's fault".

then what the hell do you pose the question for???....to see it in print! This is one of the reasons some of us get perterbed with you, because you've pulled this same stunt dozens of times. Take a hint...dont try to trick someone in a discussion....find the common ground to start and move forward...eventually!

What is the definition of a hateful person? Someone who hates. If Bob is saying that I hate Muslims, that would make me a "hateful person".

Do you have another definition of a "hateful person"?

The definition of a "hateful person" is irrelevant, as you brought that into the conversation, not Bob.

The problems is that I don't think you quite understand what the term "hate on" means, which is the term Bob used.

I "hated on" Gio Ponti before the Million, it doesn't make me a vengeful person with a hateful heart who wishes death or ill will to Gio Ponti.

So what does "hate on" mean in the context that Bob used it?

of course the first post was right. but the liberals and conservatives have to go crying to "daddy" government. somehow the government will solve all their problems even though there is no problem. i can understand the liberals, they have always been like this. the conservatives (thats what they call themselves) are now the same mode. if they don't like something they want the government to control it....hell, they are even worse than that. they think we can control the world by invading and rebuilding countries. the only one that makes sense on the entire issue is the mayor...which makes the most sense because he is an independant. people don't even realize they get munipulated by both sides for a vote........we are a country of geniuses......yeah right......lol:zz:

It's a hip hop term. Bob is rollin' wid his homies. Sippin' yak on ice.

:zz: Excuse me? It's not my fault you can't understand what I said

I said I think poverty, lack of a job, etc. contributes to violence. No, I don't think poverty, lack of having a job, etc. is "society's fault".

That is too complex for you to understand? If so, don't blame me.

And as the guy who answered back, "typical flaming liberal shrieking.....it's all societys' fault" you're obviously not the one to be lecturing on discussion technique.

^^^ wishes she had a non-discussion technique.

:confused:

Note to Myself:



Must have bad honey....this isn't happening.Throw away and buy new teddy bear brand.

I laughed.

Then why are most of the terroristic types well educated and from well off families? The Mid-Eastern countries are swimming in oil, cranking in the $$. That is the last place that should be crying poverty. Maybe they should turn their terrorism against their own "homelands". Israel has no oil, but democracy seems to be keeping them fairly happy. Sh!t if it weren't for Hamas and Hezzzbollah Isreal would be a frikkin Utopia. Maybe jealousy and the blame game have something to do with it. Oh, those are the cards being played by the progressives in this country now. Life isn't fair. get the fukc over it. Obamas policies of redistribution of wealth seem fair to those who are looking for more freebies, but what about those of us who work hard pay our bills pay our taxes live within our means then see it taken away to be given to slackers looking for a hand-out from BIG-BRO. What the fukc is fair about that? That poor cabbie should sue the people trying to put that Mosque at ground zero. They are the ones stirring up the sh!t. I read that he was against the Mosque in the first place. If you are going to get behind the 1'st Amendment, PLEASE, at least be consistent and get behind the 2n'd. And all the others for that matter. People can disagree with Obama without being racist. People can be against the G-Z Mosque without being anti-muslim too. The progressives should grow up just a little bit and chill out with the name calling. That's the last resort of someone who has lost the arguement. Good Luck on Travers Day! See ya there!