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Cannon Shell 10-17-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
As long as the sausage stays...Im cool with that:tro:

The sausage will stay. we will end you a large supply while you are over in Stockholm

GPK 10-17-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The sausage will stay. we will end you a large supply while you are over in Stockholm


You can have the sausage if you send Cherie with me:{>: :D

viscount26 10-17-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There are a few DT guys from LI that would be good canidates for your staff....

:D :D

viscount26 10-17-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I most humbly accept:tro:

Can I take Cherie with me??:{>:

Can you leave soon
:rolleyes:

GPK 10-17-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Can you leave soon
:rolleyes:


If I'm going to Sweden...I can't get outta here quick enough:)

philcski 10-17-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am going to disband the NTRA and make myself national dictator of racing. There will be lots of changes. Takeout will be lowered to 10% across the board. Most current track execs will be terminated. There will be no further expansion of synthetic surfaces (unless Bob and I get a really good polytrack horse). The Fat Man will become the national commissioner for replays and racing data. Hawthorne will be converted into a federal prison (not that much work needs to be done). Hialeah will be reopened and Mr Brunetti will be kindly asked to leave the country. The federal govt will takeover Magna Entertainment and Mr Stronach will step down and Mr. Philski will be incharge. Bob Evans may need to flee the country to avoid the Siberian torture chamber and we will seize control of all his restuarants.

As tongue and cheek as this is, there really isn't a bad idea out of all of them.


Especially the one about the Fat Man being national commissioner for replays and racing data :wf

viscount26 10-17-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
If I'm going to Sweden...I can't get outta here quick enough:)

Especially if Cherie's with ya
:tro: :tro:

GPK 10-17-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Especially if Cherie's with ya
:tro: :tro:

:{>: :{>:

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-17-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There are a few DT guys from LI that would be good canidates for your staff....

Plenty here in the Mohawk Valley too! :zz:

Payson Dave 10-17-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am going to disband the NTRA and make myself national dictator of racing. There will be lots of changes. Takeout will be lowered to 10% across the board. Most current track execs will be terminated. There will be no further expansion of synthetic surfaces (unless Bob and I get a really good polytrack horse). The Fat Man will become the national commissioner for replays and racing data. Hawthorne will be converted into a federal prison (not that much work needs to be done). Hialeah will be reopened and Mr Brunetti will be kindly asked to leave the country. The federal govt will takeover Magna Entertainment and Mr Stronach will step down and Mr. Philski will be incharge. Bob Evans may need to flee the country to avoid the Siberian torture chamber and we will seize control of all his restuarants.


yer gonna need somone as Secretary of the Navy.....I'm a very experienced motor boater....I can also qualify for Director of Foriegn and/or Domestic Affairs

Cajungator26 10-17-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
yer gonna need somone as Secretary of the Navy.....I'm a very experienced motor boater....I can also qualify for Director of Foriegn and/or Domestic Affairs

Oy vey ... LMFAO :D

Cannon Shell 10-17-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
yer gonna need somone as Secretary of the Navy.....I'm a very experienced motor boater....I can also qualify for Director of Foriegn and/or Domestic Affairs

The Navy it is.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i live within my means, you say you do as well. so why can't our govt do the same? probably because our society is made up mostly of people in debt up to their eyeballs-and our govt is made up of too many folks who think that's not a problem, so our govt runs in the same slipshod way.

Well, the main reason is because Republicans always want to give the rich a tax break. When Clinton was in, we weren't in debt like this. Bush came in and had that tax break for the rich. We've been going further n further n' debt ever since. They would rather borrow money from China than tax C.E.O. types to get it. This 700 billion they are gunna use to bail out bad loans should come from where? Borrow it from China? Tax you and me? How about they tax the damn people that made out like bandits while this bad lending was going on. People like that scumbag from Lehman bros. that took 250 mil out of that company before it went under. We don't have the will to tax people who can easily pay it. Simple as that. We aren't gunna agree about what should be cut, but I think it's pretty obvious we need to raise money as well. They should tax the top 10% highest earners from 1 to 10 % more taxes in a graduated way(I don't think Honu is in that bunch, but she is excluded if she is,) and do away with the tax cut for whoever Obama says he wants to give it to. Then make these fkn Iraqis pay us back for getting rid of the a-hole they should of never allowed in. Make them pay us back(in oil money) for every damn penny we have been out trying to civilize those savages. I think it was a mistake to try to democratize savages, but Geedubb had his mind made up. Lets start getting our money back. Give us oil back, or money. Why do they think we should rebuild their country for free? Should get half back at least.



Well, somebody did nominate me for SEC. OF STATE. How is that, Kev?

Danzig 10-17-2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The Navy it is.

i want roger goodells job, if you guys could take care of that, i'll vote for you.

Danzig 10-17-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, the main reason is because Republicans always want to give the rich a tax break. When Clinton was in, we weren't in debt like this. Bush came in and had that tax break for the rich. We've been going further n further n' debt ever since. They would rather borrow money from China than tax C.E.O. types to get it. This 700 billion they are gunna use to bail out bad loans should come from where? Borrow it from China? Tax you and me? How about they tax the damn people that made out like bandits while this bad lending was going on. People like that scumbag from Lehman bros. that took 250 mil out of that company before it went under. We don't have the will to tax people who can easily pay it. Simple as that. We aren't gunna agree about what should be cut, but I think it's pretty obvious we need to raise money as well. They should tax the top 10% highest earners from 1 to 10 % more taxes in a graduated way(I don't think Honu is in that bunch, but she is excluded if she is,) and do away with the tax cut for whoever Obama says he wants to give it to. Then make these fkn Iraqis pay us back for getting rid of the a hole they should of never allowed in. Make them pay us back(in oil money) for every damn penny we have been out trying to civilize those savages. I think it was a mistake to try to democratize savages, but Geedubb had his mind made up. Lets start getting our money back. Give us oil back, or money. Why do they think we should rebuild their country for free? Should get half back at least.



Well, somebody did nominate me for SEC. OF STATE. How is that, Kev?

omg, your first state visit to turkey would be something to see.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
omg, your first state visit to turkey would be something to see.

BTW, It's gunna be a very uncomfortable situation (Turkey and Obama.) They have officially backed McCain, because Obama did something to recognize the fact they slaughtered all those Armenians. They hate that more than anything. They expect you to accept their denials, and move on (don't talk back when lied to.) I will pass on that State Visit.

Danzig 10-17-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
BTW, It's gunna be a very uncomfortable situation (Turkey and Obama.) They have officially backed McCain, because Obama did something to recognize the fact they slaughtered all those Armenians. They hate that more than anything. They expect you to accept their denials, and move on (don't talk back when lied to.) I will pass on that State Visit.

yeah, i believe obama said there was a genocide, but he didn't co-sponsor the actual resolution.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, i believe obama said there was a genocide, but he didn't co-sponsor the actual resolution.

Doesn't take much to get these people pop rocking. They are highly inbred to fight and argue.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/18639725@N07/2951062748/

Cannon Shell 10-17-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i want roger goodells job, if you guys could take care of that, i'll vote for you.

You got it. And we will also make you commissioner of the NHL for something to do in your spare time in between Pacman Jones hearings. You cant be worse than the guy they have now...

Cannon Shell 10-17-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
BTW, It's gunna be a very uncomfortable situation (Turkey and Obama.) They have officially backed McCain, because Obama did something to recognize the fact they slaughtered all those Armenians. They hate that more than anything. They expect you to accept their denials, and move on (don't talk back when lied to.) I will pass on that State Visit.

I was thinking of something like US ambassador to the UN.

GPK 10-17-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, the main reason is because Republicans always want to give the rich a tax break. When Clinton was in, we weren't in debt like this. Bush came in and had that tax break for the rich. We've been going further n further n' debt ever since. They would rather borrow money from China than tax C.E.O. types to get it. This 700 billion they are gunna use to bail out bad loans should come from where? Borrow it from China? Tax you and me? How about they tax the damn people that made out like bandits while this bad lending was going on. People like that scumbag from Lehman bros. that took 250 mil out of that company before it went under. We don't have the will to tax people who can easily pay it. Simple as that. We aren't gunna agree about what should be cut, but I think it's pretty obvious we need to raise money as well. They should tax the top 10% highest earners from 1 to 10 % more taxes in a graduated way(I don't think Honu is in that bunch, but she is excluded if she is,) and do away with the tax cut for whoever Obama says he wants to give it to. Then make these fkn Iraqis pay us back for getting rid of the a-hole they should of never allowed in. Make them pay us back(in oil money) for every damn penny we have been out trying to civilize those savages. I think it was a mistake to try to democratize savages, but Geedubb had his mind made up. Lets start getting our money back. Give us oil back, or money. Why do they think we should rebuild their country for free? Should get half back at least.



Well, somebody did nominate me for SEC. OF STATE. How is that, Kev?


You like your meat a little on the darker side of white....so its only natural you follow in Condi's footsteps

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I was thinking of something like US ambassador to the UN.

I thought you already said OBAMA'S cabinet was gunna be made up of the U.N.

Danzig 10-17-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You got it. And we will also make you commissioner of the NHL for something to do in your spare time in between Pacman Jones hearings. You cant be worse than the guy they have now...

awesome, i love hockey.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You like your meat a little on the darker side of white....so its only natural you follow in Condi's footsteps


What's Condi got to do with anybody dark? Sheza whiter than you.

GPK 10-17-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
What's Condi got to do with anybody dark? Sheza whiter than you.


LOL:D

SCUDSBROTHER 10-17-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
LOL:D

Kev, Condi thinks rap is a piece of fur to wear. http://www.flickr.com/photos/18639725@N07/2950270039/

Cannon Shell 10-18-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I thought you already said OBAMA'S cabinet was gunna be made up of the U.N.

Not me. I actually may kick the UN out of the country so you may need to go overseas to fill this post

SCUDSBROTHER 10-18-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Not me. I actually may kick the UN out of the country so you may need to go overseas to fill this post


Much like I avoid stepping in dog waste, I have decided to avoid the Islamic Countries. I have chosen Makmoud from Michigan to help me tame these individuals. He has to go through an attitude adjustment program(called "BLEACH") started by our quickshot V.P. Dick Cheney. Then, he will be ready to serve.

Honu 10-18-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, the main reason is because Republicans always want to give the rich a tax break. When Clinton was in, we weren't in debt like this. Bush came in and had that tax break for the rich. We've been going further n further n' debt ever since. They would rather borrow money from China than tax C.E.O. types to get it. This 700 billion they are gunna use to bail out bad loans should come from where? Borrow it from China? Tax you and me? How about they tax the damn people that made out like bandits while this bad lending was going on. People like that scumbag from Lehman bros. that took 250 mil out of that company before it went under. We don't have the will to tax people who can easily pay it. Simple as that. We aren't gunna agree about what should be cut, but I think it's pretty obvious we need to raise money as well. They should tax the top 10% highest earners from 1 to 10 % more taxes in a graduated way(I don't think Honu is in that bunch, but she is excluded if she is,) and do away with the tax cut for whoever Obama says he wants to give it to. Then make these fkn Iraqis pay us back for getting rid of the a-hole they should of never allowed in. Make them pay us back(in oil money) for every damn penny we have been out trying to civilize those savages. I think it was a mistake to try to democratize savages, but Geedubb had his mind made up. Lets start getting our money back. Give us oil back, or money. Why do they think we should rebuild their country for free? Should get half back at least.



Well, somebody did nominate me for SEC. OF STATE. How is that, Kev?



I can agree with alot you say ,Scuds , and I say WOW!
The problem I have with taxing the highest earners is , they are usually providing the most commerce, jobs, small business and putting alot of their money into the economy . 250k is not alot for a small buisness to earn it doesnt even buy half a house around here , so I cant really see taxing buisness that earn only that much , just doesnt seem in the best intrests of everyone involved , it just invites more tax loopholes and all that stuff.
I agreee the Iraqi's should help with the cost rebuilding their country, and I will always believe that if nations want to be free , and I truly believe the Iraqi'a expected a diffirent outcome than all this , that we have an obligation to try and help them IF they are willing to help themselves.
I feel us as an American people , are smarter and more willing to make the best of a bad situtation than most countries around the world, we are crafty Americans.
We can overcome most things , we have more determination than most people around the world and we have proved it time and time again.
We should start our government reform by re-calling some loans and stop sending money to countries who dont like us ( ill let you make your own list) , we should have some peeps look up the asses of all these government programs , you and I know they are blowin our money.
I just read on-line about the first state funded health-welfare program in the United States going plthhhhh because people who already have insurance for their children thru their jobs or what not dropped their insurance to sign up for State funded insurance and it broke the bank. So now the people who really needed are are less fortunate and the one's who didnt need it screwed it up.
That is the problem I see with Gov. bought insurance and really I wish one of the candidates would have said hey , I wanna go after the drug companies and see what their costs really are , I wanna see the records of Doctors who bill Insurance companies for things that may or may have not been needed , I wanna see where all this money goes that people put in every year . If there is gonna be some Gov. involvement let it be on the side of the consumer.

Danzig 10-18-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I can agree with alot you say ,Scuds , and I say WOW!
The problem I have with taxing the highest earners is , they are usually providing the most commerce, jobs, small business and putting alot of their money into the economy . 250k is not alot for a small buisness to earn it doesnt even buy half a house around here , so I cant really see taxing buisness that earn only that much , just doesnt seem in the best intrests of everyone involved , it just invites more tax loopholes and all that stuff.
I agreee the Iraqi's should help with the cost rebuilding their country, and I will always believe that if nations want to be free , and I truly believe the Iraqi'a expected a diffirent outcome than all this , that we have an obligation to try and help them IF they are willing to help themselves.
I feel us as an American people , are smarter and more willing to make the best of a bad situtation than most countries around the world, we are crafty Americans.
We can overcome most things , we have more determination than most people around the world and we have proved it time and time again.
We should start our government reform by re-calling some loans and stop sending money to countries who dont like us ( ill let you make your own list) , we should have some peeps look up the asses of all these government programs , you and I know they are blowin our money.
I just read on-line about the first state funded health-welfare program in the United States going plthhhhh because people who already have insurance for their children thru their jobs or what not dropped their insurance to sign up for State funded insurance and it broke the bank. So now the people who really needed are are less fortunate and the one's who didnt need it screwed it up.
That is the problem I see with Gov. bought insurance and really I wish one of the candidates would have said hey , I wanna go after the drug companies and see what their costs really are , I wanna see the records of Doctors who bill Insurance companies for things that may or may have not been needed , I wanna see where all this money goes that people put in every year . If there is gonna be some Gov. involvement let it be on the side of the consumer.

iraq might have an issue having to rebuild a country that we trashed for them, don't you think? kind of a sticky situation in that regard. wouldn't telling them that they have to be willing to help themselves in a bit of bad taste? wouldn't that be like you going to your neighbors house because you think the hubby is a bully, trashing the place, taking hubby to jail,and telling the wife and kids they need to clean it up-that you'll help her if she decides to first show she'll help herself?

Mortimer 10-18-2008 08:34 PM

Steven H. Crist already.

Honu 10-18-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
iraq might have an issue having to rebuild a country that we trashed for them, don't you think? kind of a sticky situation in that regard. wouldn't telling them that they have to be willing to help themselves in a bit of bad taste? wouldn't that be like you going to your neighbors house because you think the hubby is a bully, trashing the place, taking hubby to jail,and telling the wife and kids they need to clean it up-that you'll help her if she decides to first show she'll help herself?


No , really I think that the people in Iraq wanted freedom , I think they wanted us to help them but I dont think they or us expected the radical violence that ensued. But at the same time they have the means to help in their own re-building along with us , they are not a poor country as they have oil reserves. You cant put a bullied wife and a nation of people in the same analogy , I truly believe that most normal day Iraqi'a viewed us as someone that would help them ,they just couldnt predict that so many would be against them.

Danzig 10-18-2008 09:01 PM

i think you're incorrect. i also think it was a mistake to go over there, as it did nothing to enhance our national security. if anything, it's made our position, and our allies positions, weaker. and as for the middle east, it's worse over there now, with iran having no one in a position of power to keep them in check, as was the case with iraq before. that's why we're trying so hard now to make an agreement about keeping a position of power in iraq. bush blew it. he, and mccain and others, thought it would be soooo easy to go in there and finish what daddy started. but daddy and everyone would have 'finished' it back in '91-but they all knew that iran would immediately take advantage of the power vacuum should saddam be taken out. and what happened this time? exactly that. bush failed to consider the bigger picture, he lied about not wanting to engage in nation building. he didn't take everything into consideration, just marched in there to fix everything. instead he's made it a lot worse.
i don't miss saddam one bit, but we sure didn't have iran threatening to go nuke before, or posturing about removing isreal from the face of the earth. and anyone who thought violence wouldn't ensue from war (hello!) didn't study, and ignored their middle east experts!


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