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Alabama Stakes 05-22-2022 05:36 PM

7000 days no booze….that’s 1000 weeks to you hoss

Dahoss 05-22-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1165078)
7000 days no booze….that’s 1000 weeks to you hoss

No one cares. You posted the same stuff on Twitter. No one cares there either.

Not my problem you couldn’t handle alcohol. Another thing you failed at.

Alabama Stakes 05-22-2022 05:52 PM

You’re wrong. Plenty of people care . it’s a big accomplishment. Maybe you should try an AA meeting and you wouldn’t be so rotten . (Azzholes Anonymous).
I can see it now. Hi I’m duh hoss and I’m an azzhole.

Dahoss 05-22-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1165080)
You’re wrong. Plenty of people care . it’s a big accomplishment. Maybe you should try an AA meeting and you wouldn’t be so rotten . (Azzholes Anonymous).
I can see it now. Hi I’m duh hoss and I’m an azzhole.

You don’t drink but smoke yourself stupid all day everyday.

What an accomplishment. You were too weak to handle alcohol so you substituted it with weed.

Very heroic. You should write a (picture) book.

freddymo 05-22-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1165056)
It wasn't AFTER the Honeybee. It was BEFORE when she won the allowance race.

That's when it's fun to see if you can be right about the speculation of the future.

Just like I was in ZENYATTA'S 2nd race.

Jerry Brown compared her to EIGHT BELLES.

It was me who said generational talent.

Which I think is still in play.

Fillies don't need to beat colts to be considered generational.

Ruffian, Zenyatta, Personal Ensign, Monomoy Girl et al.

Is she as good as those? Probably not.

But is it that big of stretch to win the Cotillion and BC Distaff?

That would put her in line for an Eclipse and G consideration.

The jury is still out.

And Freddy. Who cares what you laugh at?

Monomy Girl? Have a Heart! I think PE won the Whitney?

freddymo 05-22-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1165078)
7000 days no booze….that’s 1000 weeks to you hoss

Congrats on not drinking for a long time. I once did 7 days, ok well maybe it was 5 but who is counting

King Glorious 05-23-2022 12:13 AM

Secret Oath is good. I thought maybe she could be special. If she was, we would know it by now. We wouldn’t need to wait to see if she wins the Cotillion and/or Distaff. The best she can be is good. She isn’t generational. Well, I guess technically she is. The best of her generation.

v j stauffer 05-23-2022 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1165086)
Secret Oath is good. I thought maybe she could be special. If she was, we would know it by now. We wouldn’t need to wait to see if she wins the Cotillion and/or Distaff. The best she can be is good. She isn’t generational. Well, I guess technically she is. The best of her generation.

I don't think she is at this point. But as I said I think it's still in play. If she could win the Cotillion and the B C Distaff that would assure her an Eclipse.

Then if she were to run at 4 being a superstar would still be possible until it wasn't.

blackthroatedwind 05-23-2022 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1165084)
Monomy Girl? Have a Heart! I think PE won the Whitney?

I care deeply about what you laugh at.

RolloTomasi 05-23-2022 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1165088)
I care deeply about what you laugh at.

I predicted Freddy was an untalented degenerate with special needs WAY BACK at the old DRF message board.

v j stauffer 05-23-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1165077)
If Dan the fat vagina and Vic stopped posting would anyone with an IQ above 76 care?

:(

Dahoss 05-23-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1165089)
I predicted Freddy was an untalented degenerate with special needs WAY BACK at the old DRF message board.

To be fair, that’s like taking credit for picking a 1/9 shot

freddymo 05-23-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1165089)
I predicted Freddy was an untalented degenerate with special needs WAY BACK at the old DRF message board.

predicted or diagnosed/

Dahoss 05-23-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1165086)
Secret Oath is good. I thought maybe she could be special. If she was, we would know it by now. We wouldn’t need to wait to see if she wins the Cotillion and/or Distaff. The best she can be is good. She isn’t generational. Well, I guess technically she is. The best of her generation.

I guess it depends on your definition of generational. I think the question was asked at some point earlier in this thread and I'd rather put hot pokers in my eyes than go back and look but...to me a "generational talent" is an athlete, horse whatever, that is so good, we only see talent like that a few times in years if not decades.

Winning the Kentucky Oaks, with a low speed figure doesn't really equate to that. She's a really nice filly, easy to root for and runs her race. But she's yet to run fast and has not been competitive both times she has faced males.

In recent history maybe two fillies would be considered "generational" to me. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. Both of them were much better than Secret Oath. Are we even sure that Secret Oath is "better" than Echo Zulu? Look at where the horses close to the pace in the Oaks finished.

freddymo 05-23-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1165094)

In recent history maybe two fillies would be considered "generational" to me. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. Both of them were much better than Secret Oath. Are we even sure that Secret Oath is "better" than Echo Zulu? Look at where the horses close to the pace in the Oaks finished.

I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.

blackthroatedwind 05-23-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1165089)
I predicted Freddy was an untalented degenerate with special needs WAY BACK at the old DRF message board.

Arguably, a generational talent.

blackthroatedwind 05-23-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1165094)
Are we even sure that Secret Oath is "better" than Echo Zulu? Look at where the horses close to the pace in the Oaks finished.

That's a great question. I think Echo Zulu is probably better up to one mile and Secret Oath better 9F and up. If someone offered me a bet, someone that would pay, I would take Echo Zulu to win the BC F&M Sprint over Secret Oath winning the BC Distaff.

Konk 05-23-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1165061)
Ending sentences with prepositions now ? The nuns would be horrified.

He got into too much trouble ending them with propositions.:D

v j stauffer 05-23-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1165095)
I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.

Completely agree.

I'd also include RACHAEL ALEXANDRA & PERSONAL ENSIGN.

Alabama Stakes 05-23-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1165095)
I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.

Couldn't even beat Alabama Stakes winner Songbird fair and square.


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