I'll believe it when I see it. He won't stay sound enough to beat Cigar's record. I doubt he even runs 20 times in his career.

Record my foot. He's better than Cigar was.

Depends on what you consider "better." Bernardini has beat nothing but tired horses... a healthy Barbaro would have put him away.

A healthy Barbaro would've eaten his dust. And allow me to clarify further.

Better = Faster. Bernardini is a faster horse than Cigar was.

Its far too early for that Ateam, but I happen to agree with you from a talent perspective. This horse has to stay on the track and actually race about 10 more times just to be mentioned with Cigar and Skip Away. Thats whats difference with horse racing today and from 10 years ago. Nobody wants to race anymore. I feel bad for anybody that wasnt a big fan when Skip Away and Cigar were constantly making news.

Absolutely. Cigar has definitely accomplished more than Bernardini has so far. There's no debating that. But Bernardini is a faster horse.

Dude, thats a little over the top wouldn't you say?
Barbaro's Derby was as good a Derby performance as I've seen in years. To say without question that Bern would blow him away is a lot farther than I would be willing to go.
And Smarty Jones sheet number in the Preakness(comparable to bern's preakness because of development comparison at the same stage of career) was faster than Bern's.
Hes great, but this is a tad premature.
I'm not even gonna address the Cigar thing. He won every place, and everywhere.

I am of the opposite opinion.
Ive never seen 3 American 3YOs in the same crop as good as Barbaro, Bernardini, and Discreet Cat.
hell,
Im not sure I have ever seen a 3YO as good as Discreet Cat period.

Our male turf horses suck right now, thats for sure.
but we had a US turf filly completely dominate an international field in the American Oaks and her stablemate is pretty damn good also.

and I would say we have an excellent group of sprinters running right now as well.

I am more impressed with American racing this year than I have been in a long time.


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lol,
yeah I was born a few years too late to see those.

Im just talking about horses I have seen run(not on tape).

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Discreet Cat reminds me a bit of Surf Cat. Freakishly talented but until he wins a race of importance, hes just a very fast horse with lots of potential.

Discreet Cat reminds me a bit of Surf Cat. Freakishly talented but until he wins a race of importance, hes just a very fast horse with lots of potential.

Barbaro raced like an older horse in his last 3 starts. He raced like he knew where the wire was and was not going to be beat. He was something special.