I would have never asked for a correction on the bill number if I wasn't planning on reading it. And I never was really worried. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

BTW if a clause is in there stating a hospital refusing treatment to a dying woman, in an emergency, if part of that treatment terminates a pregnancy, is legal, it's embarrassing. Though I suspect this is some sort of huffington hyperbole based on exemptions for catholic hospitals.

Just read the bill (it's short) and low and behold my suspicions were correct. I will take it over to the appropriate thread.

So you think a religion that treats women as poorly as the Muslim religion does is a good one?

Its probably the worst religion going... though they all have major issues.

Disclaimer so I'm not thought to be a bigot:

The only Muslims that I hate are the 100,000,000 Muslims that support a radical version of Islam and support the jihad.

I dont have a problem with the other 900,000,000, as long as they treat a woman they same as they treat a man.

With that said, it is not a good book at all though.

But I feel that the Old testiment is a bad book also... right up there with the Quran.

lol

sometimes you post just like Nascar... though there are bigger words in your posts.

one thing is true. George Bush II understood all this.

Another thing that rings true is Obama hasn't a clue.

The diplomats at the State Department view the Egyptian crisis through the lens of American strategic interests in the region, its threat to the 1979 peace accord between Egypt and Israel, and its effects on the Middle East peace process.

Makes a lot of sense, you know looking out for American Strategic Interests and all ^^^^^^

Meanwhile and here’s where it gets scary.

Workers in the West Wing also worried that if Mr. Obama did not encourage the young people in the streets with forceful, even inspiring language, he would be accused of abandoning the ideals he expressed in his 2009 speech in Cairo.

So did the voters who sided with Obama expect him to act on his ideals expressed in a speech or for American strategic interests?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/wo...ewanted=2&_r=1

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. A more telling relationship would be you thinking that all Muslims treat women poorly. That's pretty right on. You're in the category, too.

I'm amazed you dismiss something as false with absolutely zerio direct knowledge of what you are talking about :rolleyes:

Wait: no, I am not amazed. Sorry.

Well, no. Your suspicions were not correct ;)

Can you explain how you arrived at the figure of 100,000,000?

I did as you always request before being requested and opened a new thread. And yes they were correct.

Well, okay. You keep thinking that :tro: ;)

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar :eek:

You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

I assume you are aware that millions and millions and millions of Muslims do not do that? That much of what you list is extreme and not followed by the majority? That what you list is not representative of most of Islam?

And Dell, when you take a quote I make, and you cut out the middle, it is courtesy that you indicate to other readers that you have taken two separate sentences and strung them together randomly, with you changing the meaning of what I've said, because you've left out whole sentences.

Like this:
"No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body." [snip] "You're in the category, too."

the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean. It made little sense and was obviously used to bash christians and that has become sort of a theme for you recently.

[quote]Bashing Muslims, are you? :D :rolleyes:

FTFY :D

[quote=Riot;752313]Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.

no ma'am.

I'm in the realist category that you preach about high upon your pulpit.

through research. I've posted all sorts of research on it in another thread months back. You are welcome to look for it, I dont have the time right now.

it is certainly not a number that I just pulled out of my ass.. and it may not be a 100% correct number, but it is right around the correct #.

I should write APPROX 100,000,000 Muslims.