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chucklestheclown 11-04-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 715993)
I know. I don't understand how someone can frequent a horse related message board, brag about not using PPs, and appear so completely off base at all times. What's the point?

I don't "brag" about not using PPs...I just rarely use them. I bet what I know and what I don't know I supplement by using other things...including the PPs.
I know that though I know Plumania's record and feel sorry for her I'll not use her.

Dahoss 11-04-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 716090)
I dont want either... Simple. I am totally against. I think either Todd, UB is more likely.

What are you against though? What about them are you against....explain your opinion.

ateamstupid 11-04-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 716186)
I don't "brag" about not using PPs...I just rarely use them. I bet what I know and what I don't know I supplement by using other things...including the PPs.
I know that though I know Plumania's record and feel sorry for her I'll not use her.

You feel sorry for her? What does that mean?

RockHardTen1985 11-04-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 716194)
What are you against though? What about them are you against....explain your opinion.

I have said it 10x. The race is pretty paceless. I think it plays into MP and UB. Is it crazy to take a stand and say BL wont be able to pass them all? The other one is an afterthought for me. SHe got 10 pounds last time, the better trip and barley did it. I dont have any clever idea, other then the 2 likely favorites 10,11 are not much better then some of the others.

chucklestheclown 11-04-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 716197)
You feel sorry for her? What does that mean?

It means she did not do well in her last race and they don't know why. They're just throwing darts here.

Dahoss 11-04-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 716200)
I have said it 10x. The race is pretty paceless. I think it plays into MP and UB. Is it crazy to take a stand and say BL wont be able to pass them all? The other one is an afterthought for me. SHe got 10 pounds last time, the better trip and could not do it. I dont have any clever idea, other then the 2 likely favorites 10,11 are not much better then some of the others.

How did she not do it last time? She won the race right?

I think it is crazy to take a stand against them both...but I also don't think the plan is for the two Pletcher's to duel. Maybe I'm looking at the race all wrong. We'll see.

Dahoss 11-04-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 716203)
They're just throwing darts here.

Pot meet kettle

RockHardTen1985 11-04-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 716205)
How did she not do it last time? She won the race right?

I think it is crazy to take a stand against them both...but I also don't think the plan is for the two Pletcher's to duel. Maybe I'm looking at the race all wrong. We'll see.

I know she won, I typed wrong...
I dont think the Todds are going to duel I just thought they would be up on a slow pace, making them more likely then a close. Your not looking at it wrong.

ateamstupid 11-04-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 716203)
It means she did not do well in her last race and they don't know why. They're just throwing darts here.

Pretty sure you're making that up.

chucklestheclown 11-04-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 716208)
Pretty sure you're making that up.

Pretty sure I know more about her than you do. Look at the Timeform stuff yet?

Dahoss 11-04-2010 11:09 AM

Oh my god

RockHardTen1985 11-04-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 716210)
Oh my god

This is to Chuckles, right?

ateamstupid 11-04-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 716200)
I have said it 10x. The race is pretty paceless. I think it plays into MP and UB. Is it crazy to take a stand and say BL wont be able to pass them all? The other one is an afterthought for me. SHe got 10 pounds last time, the better trip and barley did it. I dont have any clever idea, other then the 2 likely favorites 10,11 are not much better then some of the others.

I really disagree that it's paceless. Acting Happy is most likely going to try and steal it, Malibu Prayer needs to be very close and Unrivaled Belle does too. They won't be suicidal fractions, but they'll be respectable. Regardless, Blind Luck has made a habit out of winning from off modest paces. She's also tractable. Bejarano had her too far out of it in the Oaks and she still won. I think Rosario realizes she has more tactical speed than that and he'll keep her in good position.

Havre de Grace just keeps improving and I really think she drew ideally for the race. Good luck.

ateamstupid 11-04-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 716209)
Pretty sure I know more about her than you do. Look at the Timeform stuff yet?

I don't think you do. Wertheimer et Frere and Andre Fabre aren't sending her to America if they're not sure what her deal is. I don't think she's going to win, but it's not because she ran badly in the Arc and 'they're throwing darts'.

Dahoss 11-04-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 716213)
This is to Chuckles, right?

Of course...so when people pm you about it later, tell them.

hockey2315 11-04-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 716209)
Pretty sure I know more about her than you do. Look at the Timeform stuff yet?

It was a giant field and she never got a chance to run. Please stop posting here. You're by far the biggest joke on this entire site. You make Smooth Operator look like a genius.

my miss storm cat 11-04-2010 02:05 PM

Indian Gracie is out...

chucklestheclown 11-04-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 716238)
It was a giant field and she never got a chance to run. Please stop posting here. You're by far the biggest joke on this entire site. You make Smooth Operator look like a genius.

LOL...I'm betting Zenyatta too. Only a fool wouldn't.

chucklestheclown 11-04-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 716216)
I don't think you do. Wertheimer et Frere and Andre Fabre aren't sending her to America if they're not sure what her deal is. I don't think she's going to win, but it's not because she ran badly in the Arc and 'they're throwing darts'.

If you are worried look at what they said immediately after. I'm not worried, she's a toss for me.


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