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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 669348)

Chuck, do you think that changing the way conditions are done would help at all such as how harness does their conditions, i.e. non-winners of X amount in the last 6 starts?

No as a matter of fact I think they should do the opposite. Conditioned claimers and opt claimers came from the harness tracks. There are too many choices for trainers now and you can shop for perfect spots if you are willing to ship. The claiming ladder has been destroyed by condition claimers. When I worked in the harness game I saw too many horses that were one race away from dropping in condition sit on the wood and the next week be out on the engine. Not to mention that thoroughbreds at the higher levels run infrequently enough that the conditions are hardly valid in some cases.

If I could put together a racing program at NYRA (with all other outside forces eliminated-impossible but to keep the post from epic proportions) I would do something like the following:

MSW
Mdn 50
mdn 25
(occasionally run a mdn 100k/75k at Saratoga or belmont fall)
mdn 15 (aqueduct inner only)

Alw $
Alw nw 3
Alw nw 2
Alw nw 1
75k
50k
35k
20k
12-15k
25nw2
Starter hdcp

3yo
75
50
25

NYB MSW
NYB Mdn 25
NYB NW2
NYB NW1
NYB 20

Obviously have stakes as well. I would have 1 conditioned claiming class to give a guy a chance to win a race with a cheaper maiden claiming horse without facing multiple winners right off the bat. Once you won that you have to find your level in either a straight 3 yo claimer or open claimers. Move em up or mve em down. I would also have a starter handicap so a dominant starter horse cant ruin the stater allowance races. Plus it gives a lesser horse a chance if he can get in a race getting a bunch of weight. Since there are so many NYB's out there we need to have at least 2 alw classes and i would have one separate NYbred claiming category. If your horse has no alw conditions and is too good for the NYB 20 claimer then let me introduce you to open claimers.

Yeah!! What 'da man said!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670415)

The cost of ownership is not going to go down because the basic expenses are only going to rise in cost. Hay has tripled in price in 4 years because of drought conditions in many areas and increase in fuel/shipping costs. Other feed like grain, etc has also risen for similar reasons. Workman's comp is not going down, liability ins is also more expensive and is now required in many jurisdictions(which is a good thing but hasnt always been required and hence is another expense). Labor costs continue to rise especially in NY where you are forced to pay employees under conditions that don't match their jobs. In other words we aren't paying them as agricultural workers but as though they are employees in a warehouse or 7-11 who work a basic 40 hour work week.

The little guy can still compete at the B level tracks but it doesnt make sense to try to do it in NY or CA. You pay a lot less in expense money at smaller tracks and run for similar purses to the big guys.

One of your better posts.

The middle of the road owner has all but been eliminated due to many reasons.

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 670919)

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...eclines_a.html

I think some of the data in this story may be fictional

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...-expected.aspx

So it appears Mth is going to pay out about $4650000 of the $50 million (93%) when all the obligations are met. The rest is going to be shifted to the fall meet.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 688501)

The one place on the planet raising purses this fall.

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 688516)

The one place on the planet raising purses this fall.

I know occasionally Philly Park appears to be on a planet of its own but they have raised purses as well.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 688577)

I know occasionally Philly Park appears to be on a planet of its own but they have raised purses as well.

I sure hope you win a few races then.

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 688581)

I sure hope you win a few races then.

Thanks, me too. Hell I'll even take a few wins at tracks with crappy purses like AP.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 688582)

Thanks, me too. Hell I'll even take a few wins at tracks with crappy purses like AP.

We all need to eat.