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Coach Pants 05-10-2010 09:06 PM


Danzig 05-10-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646026)
4th effort to attack the messenger.

What psychobabble term do you use to describe thinking everything is about you??

Gaining Ground 05-10-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pmacdaddy (Post 646029)
Thanks. Just updated my scorecard.

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 646031)

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 646032)
What psychobabble term do you use to describe thinking everything is about you??

5th, 6th, 7th and mine is the 8th for us following along

SCUDSBROTHER 05-10-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 646032)
What psychobabble term do you use to describe thinking everything is about you??

It's not about me. It's about BTW. The only way you can help him (which is your goal...to come to the aid of a Narcissist you like ) is by attacking the messenger who brought the truth. Nobody has attacked the facts. They've attacked the messenger, and that's how people have chosen to reduce the cognitive dissonance that they are finding unpleasant. Look at #3A. IT'S A BOARD FAVORITE. The popular way to diminish an idea is to try to alter it's importance by attacking the person who brought up the idea. That's what BTW did. He admitted he was wrong, but quickly attacked the messenger(FAT MAN,) and changed the subject. Now, all the enablers of BTW have followed his lead by attacking me (the messenger who pointed out the defense mechanism the Narcissist uses) using the technique BTW used in the 1st place (attacking the messenger.)


http://www.rationalrevelation.com/library/cogdis.html

Coach Pants 05-10-2010 09:28 PM


SCUDSBROTHER 05-10-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 645939)
This is a subtle use of a defense mechanism that reduces cognitive dissonance.
By diminishing the stature of the messenger – the narcissist minimises the impact of the disagreement or criticism on himself. He did it more strongly last night with Fat Man:

""Yes, I was wrong about Rail Trip. Happy? I doubt it....as you are as miserable as they come."

Now, after he did that, he quickly changes the subject:

"Now, that we have gotten past that, try to actually make one post that is related to the actual discussion. Surely you can do this once."

This is a double shift. When forced to admit something he doesn't like, he makes a definite effort to shift attention away from himself.

Bump due to specific efforts made to displace attention away from this (by attacking the messenger.) If you'll stop the efforts to distract attention away from the subject, then no bumps.

Coach Pants 05-10-2010 09:32 PM


Gaining Ground 05-10-2010 09:32 PM

isnt the subject zenyatta v rail trip?

SCUDSBROTHER 05-10-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 646047)
isnt the subject zenyatta v rail trip?

Yet another way to lessen information you don't like......BTW said he was wrong about Rail Trip, but (because he's a narcissist) had to try to alter the importance of that by attacking FAT MAN. I didn't bring Narcissism in. He displayed it 3 times:

1) Writes "Happy?" after admitting he's wrong...........(Narcissistic Technique.)

2) I was wrong, but you're as miserable as it gets........ (Narcissistic Technique.)

3) Changes subject...........(Narcissistic Technique.)

Gaining Ground 05-10-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646051)
Yet another way to lessen information you don't like......BTW said he was wrong about Rail Trip, but (because he's a narcissist) had to try to alter the importance of that by attacking FAT MAN. I didn't bring Narcissism in. He displayed it 3 times:

1) Happy?..........(Narcissistic Technique.)

2) I was wrong, but you're as miserable as it gets........ (Narcissistic Technique.)

3) Changes subject...........(Narcissistic Technique.)

i have no dog in whatever fight you are trying to have. just trying to get the thread back to what the subject is and its not who is or isnt a narcissist. the subject is zenyatta and rail trip.

Coach Pants 05-10-2010 09:58 PM


Danzig 05-10-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 646047)
isnt the subject zenyatta v rail trip?

scuds vs the world is way more interesting right now.

smuthg 05-10-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 645935)
Rachel Alexandra has faced tougher horses in 2010 than Zenyatta....and even you know that.

Maybe... But those horses and their connections had a choice 1) take a shot at Rachel or 2) take a shot at Z.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-10-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 646052)
i have no dog in whatever fight you are trying to have. just trying to get the thread back to what the subject is and its not who is or isnt a narcissist. the subject is zenyatta and rail trip.

IF THEY STOP ATTACKING THE MESSENGER, THEN IT'D BE BACK ON WHAT YOU WANT. LOL...Nothing new going on. I just reset it. They keep attacking the messenger in order to try to lessen the importance of something they don't like being talked about. This is what people do when a Narcissist is exposed with facts. They attack the messenger.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-10-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 646056)
scuds vs the world is way more interesting right now.

Another attack on the messenger. Painting messenger as paranoid etc. Still no attack on the facts brought up.

Gaining Ground 05-10-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646059)
IF THEY STOP ATTACKING THE MESSENGER, THEN IT'D BE BACK ON WHAT YOU WANT. LOL...Nothing new going on. I just reset it. They keep attacking the messenger in order to try to lessen the importance of something they don't like being talked about. This is what people do when a Narcissist is exposed with facts. They attack the messenger.

:wf

stonegossard 05-10-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646060)
Another attack on the messenger.

Scuds I am on your side of this argument. You seem like a good enough dude.

gales0678 05-10-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646060)
Another attack on the messenger. Painting messenger as paranoid etc. Still no attack on the facts brought up.

facts are the facts scuds , i know the deal you feel , if i claim foul when nyra doesn't give a refund over a horse held in the starting gate, it becomes a debate on my assocaition with a former board member instead of a cold hard look at the facts ....ie now instead of looking at the message , the messenger goes on trial , great country isn't it scuds

stonegossard 05-10-2010 10:31 PM

Scuds I was joking. I waited patiently for you to post, but you are probably too busy finishing up building your last lamp built out of human body parts. I wanted the tenth attacker on scuds to be special. You let me down Dahmer.

CSC 05-10-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 646051)
Yet another way to lessen information you don't like......BTW said he was wrong about Rail Trip, but (because he's a narcissist) had to try to alter the importance of that by attacking FAT MAN. I didn't bring Narcissism in. He displayed it 3 times:

1) Writes "Happy?" after admitting he's wrong...........(Narcissistic Technique.)

2) I was wrong, but you're as miserable as it gets........ (Narcissistic Technique.)

3) Changes subject...........(Narcissistic Technique.)

Interesting $hit...Who knew...


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