Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

First a post with UFO's and now this?

First of all, you brought the "jewish vote" in in regards to the Israel lobby as if they were one in the same when in fact they are not.

Secondly, the idea that all Jewish people vote the same is ridiculous. yes, chuck, Jewish people vote. Many are democrats. You do realize though the history of the neo con movement and their involvement with the Israel lobby dont you? You do realize that many Neo cons are jewish dont you? Most importantly, YOU DO REALIZE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND NOT JEWISH VOTERS DONT YOU?



This is a bad subject because so few understand much beyond what has been fed. Its just like the economy.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

"You act as if there is such a thing as the jewish vote"

That was your statement. Yet i am the idiot? Your implication that the Isreal lobby somehow is only neeocons and Rebublicans is just as stupid. I'm sure they send you the notes of the secret meetings...

I'm sure the clinton years were just miserable for the Isrealis

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

University professors can be insanely biased and without any background on them it is impossible to determine the validity of their arguements.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yeah, I get called names left and right by both of you and yet i am doing the attacking. Right from the neo con playbook chuck. Well done.

Don't blame your lack of comprehension on a lack of support and explanation from my part. I can't be blamed for your failures or those of your teachers.

You skew the facts and issues laid out becaue you have no clue on the subject and anyone with a brain (that would preclude antitrust32) knows it. I have laid out the facts and support with opinions with people knowledgable on the subject.

When you have time, perhaps you should have someone read you the articles.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Again distortion. That is actually a lie chuck. That would make you a LIAR. Typical.

Im sure your white house "informant" gives you all of the ins and outs of the Israel lobby and what goes on. You do "know more than 99% of the people out there of what goes on in the whitehouse".
ignore
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

First of all show one occasion in this thread where I called you a name? Secondly dont act like you presented your side when you basically posted articles and called names. Where in this thread do you specifically say what your position is? Other than to disagree with me? And worry about 1945 or 1948? What did I skew? The fact that Harvard has historically taken stances against Isreal?

That pseudo-intellectuals like you are never able to see the world for what it is? That blaame must be assigned and secret movements are to blame...

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Here is the resume. Yes, you know more than him too chuck.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/fac...y/stephen-walt

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm sure George Bush and Sarah Palin have more impressive resumes than you yet you seem to feel smarter than they are?

I did not say the guy isnt smart, just potentially biased. You know like favors one side over another and uses his intellegence to try to distort things? Because you know smart people are all straight shooters?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Nah, chuck, youve got that smart thing cornered.

The funny thing is that you ASSUME and claim bias without reading what was written. Dispute the facts. Prove the bias.

I can't find anything wrong with what was said in th piece. Can you? And if so, specifically what?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What exactly is your position in this whole deal? You have never actually said anything except indirectly blame neocons and republicans for some changing of policy in the 60's? That and called names and posted articles. There are millions of articles about this subject on both sides and simply posting them is a waste of time unless you point out the fact or statements that you are stressing. Once again, what did i say that was so factual incorrect except for the dates?And do we really want to go into the history of antisemitism at places like Harvard?

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I'm getting a dala woody again.



I like her spitting frenzies.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that?? :zz:

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would not a big cut in economic aid be regarded as a lack of support?:wf