Read above. Is Rodgers a running back?

If anyone wants to criticize the Packers D or special teams, jump in and I'll join you, but when talking about their RBs, WR or QB..I really don't agree with most of the negativity. Grant was at 50% because of a hamstring until Week 5 and I think is even with Thomas Jones or better. Leon might have an edge over Brandon and overall maybe they are "better", but it's really splitting hairs, IMO

:rolleyes: Yeah, Leon Washington, the NFL's leader in all-purpose yards and 40+ yard plays, and Brandon Jackson, same thing. I'm out.

jeez Joey...sorry you were bounced yesterday, but it's just a discussion.

shocking news developing:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

"I'm an emotional guy, and I'm sure people are tired of seeing me get emotional. People would probably say, 'Oh, here he goes again.' I think it would just better for me to just thank the Jets, and I sincerely mean that. It was well worth what I invested. But I'm going to just quietly step away if that's what happens."

--Brett Favre

I laughed

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jet...-scenario.html

Ray Lewis interested in the Jets.

Favre will come back if this happens.

I'm glad he's ticking on someone else's clock this year

I know people are raving over Rodgers' season. I wasn't impressed. All of the nerds with their stats overlook the key statistic. Winning.

We'll see how he does in the next few years. It doesn't appear that he has the will to win like the greats have.

ftfy

We'll see...If Year 2 doesn't provide those intagibles, then I'll get off the bandwagon

retired finally. hope he stays that way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...2&sportCat=nfl

This article is so stupid. It starts off with:

Maybe it was the cowardly teammate who anonymously ripped him in print. Maybe it was the absence of a game-breaking wide receiver or running back. Maybe it was the prospect of playing for a fourth different head coach in five years.

How the fucl< is Thomas Jones not considered a game-breaking running back!?!?!? He had over 1300 yards this season! And you have Washington right behind him!

And who wouldnt want Coles and Cotchery as your wide-outs!?!? They are as capible as anyone!!

This author is stupid.

And who is this Wojciechowski person? He looks EXACTLY like Dr. Green from ER... the one who died of a brain tumor. Is it the same guy? (i doubt it)

Don't even waste your time Lori. The deifying of Favre in the media is as sure as the sunrise. The further we get from last season, the more people will overlook his 22 interceptions and distant attitude towards the team.

I'm very thankful that he's gone and more importantly, that he made a relatively timely decision. Obviously our QB position is unsettled, but I've been saying for a while that we don't need a superstar under center. I think Clemens or Ratty could be at least adequate, but if the organization doesn't think so, they now have the cap room to pursue a stopgap and still improve at other positions. Not that it means anything, but McShay has Sanchez going to the Jets at 17.

This is better for the Jet offense, because as much as Schotty drives me nuts, he was hamstrung last year tailoring the offense to Favre. Now we can get back to running first, which Rex has committed to.

Mainly I'm happy that it's now completely Rex's team rather than Favre's. Saddling Rex in his first year with a media darling larger-than-life QB prone to interceptions would've been disastrous. Now at least Rex has the reins, and he can succeed or fail on his own. There won't be any "what if?" questions. A fresh start.

You can have another Rex if you want him :)

Using the term "unsettled" to describe the Jets QB situation is the mark of a true fan.

Does anyone know how much the Jets # 4 ""Favre"" Jerseys are on E-bay
Now ?? :zz:

I dunno, I guess I don't think it's as dire as you do. Clemens' only chance to play came behind a horrendous offensive line in '07, and he's played well at times (he won three of the four games that season), so I don't think he's totally useless. Ratty has looked good against nobody, but there's cause for optimism. Plus now with the cap opened up, there's a possibility to draft a QB and/or sign a Jeff Garcia type for this season.

Derek Anderson?

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...d-in-anderson/

Since he "retired", he can now go to the Vikings without the Jets losing additional draft picks.
Don't be surprised if he is wearing purple in September.

And why was Barber villified for ratting on Giant's teamamtes, but Jones gets a free pass?

I don't think it's necessarily dire, I just thought "unsettled" was a bit understated. I do not think Clemens has proven he can't play, but I don't believe from what I have read that the organization has much faith in him. As far as the Jeff Garcia type is concerned, not a fan of that type of approach. But, Leftwich, behind a good offensive line, might be the best option. They should have grabbed Chris Simms when they had the chance.

What? Ratted on who? People asked him if he was annoyed at the interceptions and he answered truthfully. He didn't go off on Favre. All he said was "if you're not playing well, you need to come out of the game. You're jeopardizing the team." He said that if he were fumbling the ball, he'd expect to come out. How is that "ratting"?

TJ is one of the hardest workers in the NFL and the ball was ripped out of his hands by this interception machine. If I were him, I would've said a lot more.

So no to Garcia, but yes to Leftwich and Simms? Explain.