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kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Wouldn't a pudding wrestling contest between the two of you be much more fair?

Huh?

brianwspencer 03-06-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
The best handicappers can do it quite easily, and BTW is one of the best. It is not that hard to compare horses like these.

And it wasn't a 7f race. It was a mile.

I am challenging him. Let's see who is right.

Sweet Jesus you're insufferable.

However, I commend those who have the energy to actually respond to all this nonsense, I tend to not even be able to gather the gusto to have a go at it.

freddymo 03-06-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
The best handicappers can do it quite easily, and BTW is one of the best. It is not that hard to compare horses like these.

And it wasn't a 7f race. It was a mile.

I am challenging him. Let's see who is right.

You are right about the mile...No accuses should have realized that..I had his 7f split on my brain which was around the same as the other two nice colts that ran earlier on the card...nobody is suggesting he isn't any good... we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

brianwspencer 03-06-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

Oh my god, this is amazing in so many ways.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Sweet Jesus you're insufferable.

However, I commend those who have the energy to actually respond to all this nonsense, I tend to not even be able to gather the gusto to have a go at it.

I am relentless and competitive. I put my opinions out there. I am not afraid to take a stand. I am very confident about this. I find it funny that he won't. It's just comparing two horses' abilities.

Come on BTW, if I'm such a novice at this, if I'm so wrong and bad with this, why won't you take a stand?

blackthroatedwind 03-06-2008 12:58 PM

You don't take a stand.

You regurgitate the obvious.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You are right about the mile...No accuses should have realized that..I had his 7f split on my brain which was around the same as the other two nice colts that ran earlier on the card...nobody is suggesting he isn't any good... we are suggesting that you keep your panties on a little longer before you build a statue of the BB and mount it at GP

It's okay. It happens to everyone.

I just recognize him for what he is....

Not getting my panties in a bunch, and certaintly not ready to build any statue. He's even been having issues as suggested by the long layoff.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You don't take a stand.

You regurgitate the obvious.

I have taken a stand, just as I did a year ago with you concerning another horse. Now, what is yours? Do you agree with me or disagree? Who is the better horse?

freddymo 03-06-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I am relentless and competitive. I put my opinions out there. I am not afraid to take a stand. I am very confident about this. I find it funny that he won't. It's just comparing two horses' abilities.

Come on BTW, if I'm such a novice at this, if I'm so wrong and bad with this, why won't you take a stand?

So if WP develops a quarter crack tomorrow and misses 6 months you are a genius? It's Fn horses .. WP hasn't done anything wrong as is extremely fast how the heck do you know what he is...he could be SSlew for all we know.. shut up and cheer for them both to be great. Why does anyone have to guess who will be better? As for who is better so far its a ridiculous question WP has been AWESOME

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
So if WP develops a quarter crack tomorrow and misses 6 months you are a genius? It's Fn horses .. WP hasn't done anything wrong as is extremely fast how the heck do you know what he is...he could be SSlew for all we know.. shut up and cheer for them both to be great. Why does anyone have to guess who will be better? As for who is better so far its a ridiculous question WP has been AWESOME

No, it's only if they race each other.

It isn't who has been better so far. It is who is the more talented horse. When they meet up, who will win. What handicapper doesn't have to make decisions like this all the time?

easy goer 03-06-2008 01:09 PM

From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

freddymo 03-06-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
No, it's only if they race each other.

I once asked Clint Glaibraith trainer of the one greatest Standard breds Niatross who was the better of the two colts he trained Niatross or Call for Rain... he laughed at me said "Niatross was way faster but he would have loved to take Call for Rain a long side and challenge him because he was the toughest SOB he had ever ridden" in other words he had no clue who would win on any given day..

Yet you seem to know who is better from watching a colt for the second time.. congrats

freddymo 03-06-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer
From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

Is this the same idiot who had Champ EL 45 lengths off the pace and cost the horse any chance of winning?

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer
From Dick DOwney site:

Ramon said that this horse is very unique because he feels like he’s falling asleep on you down the backside. ...”--Richard Schosberg

“He’s very unique; as big as he is, he does as little as he has to. He is very responsive, though, when you ask him to go. He’ll give you one big stride and then turn himself off."--Ramon Dominguez

DOes this sound like a horse that...What the heck did Kentucky say? He runs on his own?

I didn't say that. Everyone else said that. Not me. This excerpt says exactly what I said. The horse wasn't all out down the stretch because the jock didn't ask him. He never asked him. He was holding him back.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Handicappers bet their hard earned money betting on their opinions. That is what is important to them. Who cares who's more talented besides you?

Um, what about Derby futures?

How about handicapping in general? When isn't a handicapper trying to assess and analyze one horse's talent and ability from another when they are entered in the same race?

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-06-2008 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You are talking about apples and oranges and as usual have no clue what you are talking about.

Apples and oranges? I think not. I don't have a clue what I am talking about...oh, how odd, that's all I ever get on this board, and I think it is very funny coming from someone who says that we are talking about apples and oranges. Analyzing ability and talent is a large part of handicapping, and that is what comparing War Pass and Big Brown is all about. How is it not? What about the Derby future wagers?

My questions won't get answered.

SniperSB23 03-06-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Um, what about Derby futures?

How about handicapping in general? When isn't a handicapper trying to assess and analyze one horse's talent and ability from another when they are entered in the same race?

Big Brown is in the increasingly appetizing "All other 3yo" option in the Derby future pool.

You haven't set a distance for the race or said who else would be in the field. Without that info there is absolutely no handicapping you can do. Plus we are comparing a runaway winner in an off the turfer to a proven stakes horse.


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